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Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled[W:121]

Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

AGENT J said:
how many were factually cause by weed?

another meaningless stat as you present the info, facts win again
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Every single one of them ... if you apply the same legal standard that applies to alcohol.

How do you ignore the report from the National Drug Abuse Council (or whatever hell the name of that government agency might be) in Post #64 ... you can't be selective in your facts -- you have to use all of them.
 
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Rocketman said:
THC? we are done here, you lose, along with another liberal that refuses to read on ignore you go.:lamo
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thats what i thought you got NOTHING lol

facts prove your post wrong again


nobody here is supporting that driving while impaired

but we are pointing out the fact these studies are useless without more info
where they high at the time of the accident?
did they cayuse the wreck?
if they did was it because they were high?

with out these answers you got nothing and facts win again lol

the studies only show that more people had weed in their system, thats it, NOTHING ELSE do you deny this fact?

I cant wait for your answer i know you are going to dodge it
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

GBFAN said:
Every single one of them ... if you apply the same legal standard that applies to alcohol.

How do you ignore the report from the National Drug Abuse Council (or whatever hell the name of that government agency might be) in Post #64 ... you can't be selective in your facts -- you have to use all of them.
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he can't read, he will continue to shout without substance

 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

GBFAN said:
1.)Every single one of them ... if you apply the same legal standard that applies to alcohol.

2.) How do you ignore the report from the National Drug Abuse Council (or whatever hell the name of that government agency might be) in Post #64 ... you can't be selective in your facts -- you have to use all of them.
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1.) so the answer is none of them because you dont know, thanks for pointing that fact out
2.) nobody ignored anything, posting this lie wont make it true

i am actually the one using FACTS lol

tell me what that study FACTUALLY says, have to ever had a stats class in your life?

the study says the more people were found to have weed in thier system, that's it, that's the only fact there are no others

do you disagree with that fact?

PLEASE answer lol
 
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1-it stands to reason that as there are more people and marijuana use has become more commonplace, that there would be a higher incident of accidents involving drivers with some trace amounts of marijuana.
2-The study covered a span from 1999. That cant very well include data from states where marijuana use has been legalized with anything resembling reliability.
3-I would bet good money if someone were invested in looking at the 'statistics', incidents of fatal accidents involving prescription drug use have increased dramatically as well.
4-the study shows figures for use of BOTH alcohol AND marijuana...does it reflect use of ONLY marijuana?
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

VanceMack said:
1-it stands to reason that as there are more people and marijuana use has become more commonplace, that there would be a higher incident of accidents involving drivers with some trace amounts of marijuana.
2-The study covered a span from 1999. That cant very well include data from states where marijuana use has been legalized with anything resembling reliability.
3-I would bet good money if someone were invested in looking at the 'statistics', incidents of fatal accidents involving prescription drug use have increased dramatically as well.
4-the study shows figures for use of BOTH alcohol AND marijuana...does it reflect use of ONLY marijuana?
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this one does:

 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
 
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Rocketman said:
he can't read, he will continue to shout without substance

 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
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FACTS from the stats above
More people had weed in thier system in recent years than previous years. Thats it no other facts are there lol

important questions:
how many were high at the time of the accident?
how many caused the accident?
of the number that caused the accident was it because they were impaired?

facts win again!

let me know when you can prove otherwise
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

AGENT J said:
1.) so the answer is none of them because you dont know, thanks for pointing that fact out
2.) nobody ignored anything, posting this lie wont make it true

i am actually the one using FACTS lol

tell me what that study FACTUALLY says, have to ever had a stats class in your life?

the study says the more people were found to have weed in thier system, that's it, that's the only fact there are no others

do you disagree with that fact?

PLEASE answer lol
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Ahhhh -- i got ya --- the federal government is lying to us ... but only when it comes to pot, right? Clearly you didn't bother to read the report .. I did.

But, you don't want to ... it absolutely destroys your position ... I'll leave you to your ignorance. Wear it in good health ...

But, if you're brave enough ... and I don't think for one minute that you are ... start here http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana-abuse/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving
 
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prove is there AJ fails to read, all had it in their system. I love watching paranoia

 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

VanceMack said:
1-it stands to reason that as there are more people and marijuana use has become more commonplace, that there would be a higher incident of accidents involving drivers with some trace amounts of marijuana.
2-The study covered a span from 1999. That cant very well include data from states where marijuana use has been legalized with anything resembling reliability.
3-I would bet good money if someone were invested in looking at the 'statistics', incidents of fatal accidents involving prescription drug use have increased dramatically as well.
4-the study shows figures for use of BOTH alcohol AND marijuana...does it reflect use of ONLY marijuana?
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Yeah, big pharma probably wouldn't let such studies see the light of day.
 
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GBFAN said:
1.)Ahhhh -- i got ya --- the federal government is lying to us ...
2.) but only when it comes to pot, right?
3.)Clearly you didn't bother to read the report .. I did.
4.)But, you don't want to ... it absolutely destroys your position ...
5.)I'll leave you to your ignorance. Wear it in good health ...
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1.) who said they are lying? lol please stop posting lies and making stuff up
2.) actually i said earlier that ANY and ALL studies like this that dont provide more info only prove one thing, that a substance was in the blood and NOTHING else
3.) not only id i read it, i actually understood it lol
4.) what position? oh please tell me what my position is? I havent stated one

the studies support everything i said 100%

5.) failed deflection and failed insult wont work they only further expose the fact that your posts failed, i noticed you didnt answer my question, you dodged it, thats VERY telling but it was expected

i will ask again:

the OP/study says more people were found to have weed in thier system in recent years compared to previous years, that's it, that's the only fact there are, no others

do you disagree with that fact? simply question lets see if you can answer
 
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Rocketman said:
prove is there AJ fails to read, all had it in their system. I love watching paranoia

 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
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FACTS from the stats above
More people had weed in thier system in recent years than previous years. Thats it no other facts are there lol

it being in thier system doesnt mean anything lol

important questions:
how many were high at the time of the accident?
how many caused the accident?
of the number that caused the accident was it because they were impaired?

facts win again!

let me know when you can prove otherwise
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

AGENT J said:
1.) who said they are lying? lol please stop posting lies and making stuff up
2.) actually i said earlier that ANY and ALL studies like this that dont provide more info only prove one thing, that a substance was in the blood and NOTHING else
3.) not only id i read it, i actually understood it lol
4.) what position? oh please tell me what my position is? I havent stated one

the studies support everything i said 100%

5.) failed deflection and failed insult wont work they only further expose the fact that your posts failed, i noticed you didnt answer my question, you dodged it, thats VERY telling but it was expected

i will ask again:

the OP/study says more people were found to have weed in thier system in recent years compared to previous years, that's it, that's the only fact there are, no others

do you disagree with that fact? simply question lets see if you can answer
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Give me a break ---you read the report --- all 371 pages? And, just when did you do this? In the past 15 minutes? I don't want to accuse anybody of false statements ... so, we'll just assume you read the bullets on the main page only. Man, your credibility is clearly shot in the ass.

As for the nonsense about the OP, that's simply dissembling and backpedaling ... you came in here making all kinds of grandiose statements about how pot didn't cause any deaths, and now you're trying to run and hide from your position by suddenly claiming you were ONLY talking about the OP.

Given your new found lack of credibility, I can see why you would do that ...
 
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Agent J resorts to making things up when he does not like the results. They are plain below, can't be argued. Fatilities down, marijuana fatalities up.....end of story.


 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
 
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GBFAN said:
1.)Give me a break ---you read the report --- all 371 pages? And, just when did you do this? In the past 15 minutes? I don't want to accuse anybody of false statements ... so, we'll just assume you read the bullets on the main page only. Man, your credibility is clearly shot in the ass.

As for the nonsense about the OP, that's simply dissembling and backpedaling ... you came in here making all kinds of grandiose statements about how pot didn't cause any deaths, and now you're trying to run and hide from your position by suddenly claiming you were ONLY talking about the OP.

Given your new found lack of credibility, I can see why you would do that ...
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BAM called it you dodged the question AGAIN so telling

what 371 pages? im talking about the op and the PDF posted by RM and the stats he keeps reposting that prove me right lol


also whats this NEW lie you are posting?

"you came in here making all kinds of grandiose statements about how pot didn't cause any deaths"

link? Quote?

this was never said in that context at all, making up this lie wont help your failed posts, facts win again!

ill ask you the question AGAIN since you keep dodging it, tell me that cool line about "credibility" again lol

Lets see if you have you can post with any honesty or integrity

he OP/study says more people were found to have weed in thier system in recent years compared to previous years, that's it, that's the only fact there are, no others

do you disagree with that fact? yes or no
 
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Rocketman said:
Agent J resorts to making things up when he does not like the results. They are plain below, can't be argued. Fatilities down, marijuana fatalities up.....end of story.


 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
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there is nothing here that says:

they were high at the time of the accident
they cased the accident
if they did cause the accident it was caused by them being high

if you disagree simply prove us wrong and post those facts now

fact win again !
 
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Rocketman said:
What a surprise-Rocketman:lol:


“If a driver is under the influence of alcohol, their risk of a fatal crash is 13 times higher than the risk of the driver who is not under the influence of alcohol,” Li said. “But if the driver is under the influence of both alcohol and marijuana, their risk increased to 24 times that of a sober person.”
Researchers found that the increase in marijuana use occurred across all ages for males and females.
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WOW! so if you are high on weed and you are drunk at the same time you get REALLY f*cked up?
What a revelation without this "study " we never would have known this...
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for letting us know this, never before revealed, fact.
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

GBFAN said:
Sorry --- you are ill-informed.

"Because marijuana impairs judgment and motor coordination and slows reaction time, an intoxicated person has an increased chance of being involved in and being responsible for an accident.18,19 According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18 percent of motor vehicle driver deaths. A recent survey found that 6.8 percent of drivers, mostly under age 35, who were involved in accidents tested positive for THC; alcohol levels above the legal limit were found in 21 percent of such drivers."
Does marijuana use affect driving? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

You're welcome.
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Wrong about what. Tested positive does not mean high at the time.

You're welcome.
 
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apdst said:
Ya know--surprisingly enough--that information is left out of drunk driving stats, too.
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Indeed it is. It's not surprising, it's done to artificially inflate the numbers to give greater justification for government intervention.
 
Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

Rocketman said:
Poor AJ, he failed to get the memo:

 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
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Again, doesn't prove that the person was high at the time of the crash. It could be used to construe that marijuana use in general is on the rise, which I would buy. But it doesn't mean that it was a factor in the crash.
 
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Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

Rocketman said:
this one does:

 Colorado’s Fatal Crashes Involving THC Increased 148%.

Between 2006 and 2011, 240 people were killed in Colorado in crashes where the driver tested positive for THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. The number of fatalities with drivers under the influence of marijuana has increased over the years, while state-wide fatal crashes have decreased.

In Colorado during the five-year period, 2006 to 2011, fatal crashes involving THC increased 148%.

THC Total State Percent
Fatal Crashes Fatal Crashes THC
Year
2006 21 721 2.9%
2007 23 789 2.9%
2008 31 712 4.4%
2009 37 653 5.7%
2010 42 600 7%
2011 52 587 8.9%

Source: Colorado Department of Transportation
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And by comparison, what has been the increase in number of casual users of marijuana? Its also not insignificant that while the number of marijuana USERS has gone up, the number of alcohol related fatalities has not decreased and still far surpasses incidents where marijuana use was indicated at some point in time.

No one is suggesting that it is safe to drive while under the influence of ANYTHING. Surely you get that...right? The reality is...more people are using and abusing substances, be it alcohol, marijuana, prescription, meds, heroin, etc.
 
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AGENT J said:
there is nothing here that says:

they were high at the time of the accident
they cased the accident
if they did cause the accident it was caused by them being high

if you disagree simply prove us wrong and post those facts now

fact win again !
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there is nothing that says they weren't either. The info here tells you it is an issue. I could care less except for the people they endanger while out. Everyone of them deserves the disaster that is waiting on them.
 
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Ikari said:
Again, doesn't prove that the person was high at the time of the crash. It could be used to construe that marijuana use in general is on the rise, which I would buy. But it doesn't mean that it was a factor in the crash.
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it shows an increase in fatalities for people with THC in their system while total fatalities including alcohol are down. When/if you lose someone close to you we are sure you will change your mind.
 
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