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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    And over a period of 25-30 years their critical thinking skills diminish, some die, some become schitzos, others move on to harder drugs. no thank you.
    I smoked a ton of weed when I was in my teens and early 20's. I still got the smarts reel good. I've done other hard drugs too. Worst of all was alcohol and cigarettes though. Been completely sober for a few years now, even quit smoking. Of all the things I've done pot is the only one that I don't remember any kind of substantial consequences. When you get really stoned its hard to concentrate and remember things, and I sure wouldn't want people to drive on it. But if I had a choice, I'd rather everyone be stoned than drunk on the road.

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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, it states what most biased people looking to confirm said bias would think they knew.

    What you don't have is actual measurement, actual data, properly analysed to within statistical significance. This is the real problem when the layman thinks himself a scientist.
    That suggestion has been proffered to Rocketman before. It's not the way he rolls.










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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

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    What a surprise-Rocketman

    SEATTLE (CBS Seattle) – According to a recent study, fatal car crashes involving pot use have tripled in the U.S.
    “Currently, one of nine drivers involved in fatal crashes would test positive for marijuana,” Dr. Guohua Li, director of the Center for Injury Epidemiology and Prevention at Columbia, and co-author of the study told HealthDay News.
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    Researchers from Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health gathered data from six states – California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and West Virginia – that perform toxicology tests on drivers involved in fatal car accidents. This data included over 23,500 drivers that died within one hour of a crash between 1999 and 2010.
    Li reported in the study that alcohol contributed to about 40 percent of traffic fatalities throughout the decade.

    The researchers found that drugs played an increasing role in fatal traffic accidents. Drugged driving accounted for more than 28 percent of traffic deaths in 2010, which is 16 percent more than it was in 1999.
    The researchers also found that marijuana was the main drug involved in the increase. It contributed to 12 percent of fatal crashes, compared to only 4 percent in 1999.

    “If a driver is under the influence of alcohol, their risk of a fatal crash is 13 times higher than the risk of the driver who is not under the influence of alcohol,” Li said. “But if the driver is under the influence of both alcohol and marijuana, their risk increased to 24 times that of a sober person.”
    Researchers found that the increase in marijuana use occurred across all ages for males and females.
    Jonathan Adkins, deputy executive director of the Governors Highway Safety Association, told HealthDay News that marijuana impairs driving in much the same way that alcohol does.

    “This study shows an alarming increase in driving under the influence of drugs, and, in particular, it shows an increase in driving under the influence of both alcohol and drugs,” Jan Withers, national president of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, added.
    “MADD is concerned anytime we hear about an increase in impaired driving, since it’s 100 percent preventable,” Withers said. “When it comes to drugged driving versus drunk driving, the substances may be different but the consequences are the same – needless deaths and injuries.”
    Adkins noted that the legalization of marijuana in some states makes these findings important to traffic safety officials.

    “It’s a wake-up call for us in highway safety,” Adkins added. “The legalization of pot is going to spread to other states. It’s not even a partisan issue at this point. Our expectation is this will become the norm rather than the rarity.”
    Li added that police do not have a test as accurate as the Breathalyzer to check a driver’s marijuana intoxication level.

    Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled « CBS Seattle
    lol
    wow thats a crap study or maybe just a crap article lol

    important questions

    where they high at the time of the accident and how high
    did them being high cause the accident

    and that goes for all drugs.

    testing dead accident victims and finding substances alone is meaningless
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You know what's not there, whether or not marijuana had anything to do with the crash. Pot says in your system a long time, you could have smoked last week and you'll still test positive. But if you got in a wreck a week after you smoked weed, weed had nothing to do with the accident even though you'll still test positive.

    So not a lot of actual information here, just paranoia and hysteria.
    It also doesn't address whether all those with potentially unrelated THC had any other drug or alcohol in their systems. If a pot smoker was out drinking for the night, he'd still have THC in his system but clearly it'd be the alcohol that was the cause of careless driving.
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Story already states what most clear thinking people know without having to read it. I could care less if every weed head died since it would be by their own choice.
    Does it state the method and levels of measurement?

    And polydrug use, what combinations? What amounts?

    Did the study measure and compare accidents where only active weed use was a factor?

    The article doesn't say. There are many questions the article doesn't answer.










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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Doesn't mean the driver wasn't high either.
    Well, if someone is going to be in legal trouble as a result, then they sure as hell need to come up with a reliable method for determining if someone was actually stoned, and didn't just happen to smoke a joint a couple of days before.
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Yeah keep laughing, those of us that have worked in industry and seen needless lives lost because some dumbass smoked a joint and hour before work will keep reading the obituaries while saying "what a dumbass" to ourselves because the person in question thought pot was harmless.
    Drug Test Detection Times | Marijuana.com

    This site says a single use of marijuana can result in a positive urine screen for 1-7 plus days. In "the industry" do they believe that a joint smoked 7 days ago is the cause for a car crash today?

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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

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    Drug Test Detection Times | Marijuana.com

    This site says a single use of marijuana can result in a positive urine screen for 1-7 plus days. In "the industry" do they believe that a joint smoked 7 days ago is the cause for a car crash today?
    For "statistical" purposes intended to cloud public perception, yes indeed.
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Drug Test Detection Times | Marijuana.com

    This site says a single use of marijuana can result in a positive urine screen for 1-7 plus days. In "the industry" do they believe that a joint smoked 7 days ago is the cause for a car crash today?
    Some here apparently think so.
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Pot heads are dying because of their choices, let the doubters chime in as they always do....puff puff pass
    Yep all 100% of pot smokers are dying because of pot, keep thinking that.

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