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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Already on the books....It's called "reckless driving"
    exactly, which is why we don't need these additional intoxication laws to begin with.
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    exactly, which is why we don't need these additional intoxication laws to begin with.
    Oh my...I think we agree on that....I'm not feeling well, must take temperature....
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I can appreciate this and I don't disagree with much here - motive is always a concern when it comes to "interpreting" scientific "evidence" that lacks quantitative and qualitative certainties.

    Being almost 60, and having lived through a time when smoking pot was initially widespread and "normal", I can say anecdotally that marijuana does indeed impair some people's physical and mental abilities while under the influence. That's all we're taking about here. There isn't a move to make alcohol illegal and I don't think this study is looking to make legalization of marijuana more difficult - it's simply pointing out that it can influence physical capacity and mental acuity and people who participate should avoid driving cars while under the influence of either or both.
    The problem is that with the testing - it can remain in your system for days, weeks, and months after you last smoked -days, weeks, or months after you were last high. I do not think anyone is seriously saying that when you are actually high that it is ok to drive. The technology to test for active use will need to catch up with the impending laws

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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    The problem is that with the testing - it can remain in your system for days, weeks, and months after you last smoked -days, weeks, or months after you were last high. I do not think anyone is seriously saying that when you are actually high that it is ok to drive. The technology to test for active use will need to catch up with the impending laws
    That makes perfect sense to me. The problem then, as with most things, is government intervention prior to government having a workable plan. If, as you say, the testing can't match potential for impairment, then government shouldn't be including drug impairment in the "driving under the influence" category of charges. Leaving it to roadside "sobriety" type testing is too subjective.
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, marijuana stays in your system for up to 30 days, so this story is ridiculous.

    NEWS FLASH FROM CBS - A marijuana user has been arrested for DUI, due to a joint he smoked last month. LOL.
    yep thats what makes the OP and the later provided PDF complete junk
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yep thats what makes the OP and the later provided PDF complete junk
    I don't think pot will nation wide legality until they develop a roadside spot test for influence.
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't think pot will nation wide legality until they develop a roadside spot test for influence.
    They already do.

    All the cop has to do is throw Doritos all over the road, if the driver goes down to eat them, ****ing torched.

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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't think pot will nation wide legality until they develop a roadside spot test for influence.

    hmmm

    very possible but im not sure that will have an impact unless evidence is produced that its needed to push that issue

    i mean theres already not "roadside" test for many many drugs legal and illegal

    Im all for people NOT driving under the influence i just dont know if this is going to matter unless something makes it
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled[W:121]

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    SEATTLE (CBS Seattle) – According to a recent study, fatal car crashes involving pot use have tripled in the U.S.
    “Currently, one of nine drivers involved in fatal crashes would test positive for marijuana,” Dr. Guohua Li, director of the Center for Injury Epidemiology and Prevention at Columbia, and co-author of the study told HealthDay News.
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    Researchers from Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health gathered data from six states – California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and West Virginia – that perform toxicology tests on drivers involved in fatal car accidents. This data included over 23,500 drivers that died within one hour of a crash between 1999 and 2010.
    Li reported in the study that alcohol contributed to about 40 percent of traffic fatalities throughout the decade.

    The researchers found that drugs played an increasing role in fatal traffic accidents. Drugged driving accounted for more than 28 percent of traffic deaths in 2010, which is 16 percent more than it was in 1999.
    The researchers also found that marijuana was the main drug involved in the increase. It contributed to 12 percent of fatal crashes, compared to only 4 percent in 1999.

    “If a driver is under the influence of alcohol, their risk of a fatal crash is 13 times higher than the risk of the driver who is not under the influence of alcohol,” Li said. “But if the driver is under the influence of both alcohol and marijuana, their risk increased to 24 times that of a sober person.”
    Researchers found that the increase in marijuana use occurred across all ages for males and females.
    Jonathan Adkins, deputy executive director of the Governors Highway Safety Association, told HealthDay News that marijuana impairs driving in much the same way that alcohol does.

    “This study shows an alarming increase in driving under the influence of drugs, and, in particular, it shows an increase in driving under the influence of both alcohol and drugs,” Jan Withers, national president of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, added.
    “MADD is concerned anytime we hear about an increase in impaired driving, since it’s 100 percent preventable,” Withers said. “When it comes to drugged driving versus drunk driving, the substances may be different but the consequences are the same – needless deaths and injuries.”
    Adkins noted that the legalization of marijuana in some states makes these findings important to traffic safety officials.

    “It’s a wake-up call for us in highway safety,” Adkins added. “The legalization of pot is going to spread to other states. It’s not even a partisan issue at this point. Our expectation is this will become the norm rather than the rarity.”
    Li added that police do not have a test as accurate as the Breathalyzer to check a driver’s marijuana intoxication level.

    Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled « CBS Seattle
    Is there a correlated increase in vehicular accidents? Also is the test good enough to determine marijuana was the contributing factor or just a trace amount?
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    Re: Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I thought pot smokers were supposed to be the stupid ones? This article is so blatantly deceptive you can discern what is wrong with it simply by skimming through it.

    "Subjects with detectable amounts of marijuana (it can stay in your system up to 45 days after ingesting) in their systems after a fatal accident have tripled from 4% to 12% from 1999 to 2010" would be more accurate. I doubt its a mistake this article just happens to coincide with recent legalization.
    Keep in mind also the tests that are given in 2010 would be more likely to have a positive than in 1999 due to increased test sensitivity.
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