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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    federal property means an installation closed to the public, not public land on the international border. and deadly force is not authorized merely for being in "buffer zones" the "USE OF DEADLY FORCE AUTHORIZED" sign looks cool, but it's not how things work. use of deadly force authorized when trying to steal federal property, making armed incursions, etc etc etc. and only when reasonable to do so. tell me how many people who've attempted to enter Area 51 have been shot.... none.
    The should be shooting those people. Maybe the dead bodies would deter the next group thinking about coming onto the property.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Furthermore, the constitution prohibits use of deadly force except as reasonably nessecary to preserve life (Garner v. Tennessee) and the Constitutional protections apply to aliens as well as citizens.
    Realize that I have next to no use for the US Constitution at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    people go up to the border all the time. there's towns that literally touch the border, your kill team going to execute the entire population of Nogales? cemetaries, missions, other historic sites are located on the border, and the areas on the border are popular with hikers, backpackers etc. your idea is a stupid one. and it's totally illegal.
    That 200 yard perimeter would be bulldozed flat to the ground. It's that simple. Since there would be no legal crossing points, that really wouldn't be too much of an issue.

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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The should be shooting those people. Maybe the dead bodies would deter the next group thinking about coming onto the property.
    Civilized people call that murder.

    Realize that I have next to no use for the US Constitution at this point.
    Then get out of this country.

    That 200 yard perimeter would be bulldozed flat to the ground. It's that simple. Since there would be no legal crossing points, that really wouldn't be too much of an issue.
    Most people would consider bulldozing a Mexican town to be an act of war.
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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The should be shooting those people. Maybe the dead bodies would deter the next group thinking about coming onto the property.
    No need really, just stop putting out water stations to help in the desert.

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    Realize that I have next to no use for the US Constitution at this point.
    Invaders have never been shielded by constitution in the past and they shouldn't be now.

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    That 200 yard perimeter would be bulldozed flat to the ground. It's that simple. Since there would be no legal crossing points, that really wouldn't be too much of an issue.
    I don't particularly like the idea, but I suppose it's a better use of emminent domain then we generally see these days.

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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    1. Civilized people call that murder.
    2. Then get out of this country.
    3. Most people would consider bulldozing a Mexican town to be an act of war.
    1. There are few truly Civilized people left in this country. They're much more like ME than you.
    2. I've been working on that.
    3. There are Mexican towns on THIS SIDE of the border? I'm talking about the first 200 yards of US soil, not Mexican soil.


    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    1. No need really, just stop putting out water stations to help in the desert.
    2.Invaders have never been shielded by constitution in the past and they shouldn't be now.
    3. I don't particularly like the idea, but I suppose it's a better use of emminent domain then we generally see these days.
    1. Good start but it doesn't go anywhere near far enough.
    2. That we will agree on.
    3. Agreed.

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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No. I'd have the Government CONFISCATE that land, along with a similar buffer along the Canadian border. Eventually it would be constructed to be a dual level defensive perimeter that would make the coastal defenses of Normandy look like paper mache. Between the levels would be a "no man's land/minefield" with overwatch from the interior defensive perimeter and electronic surveilance..
    well I guess those of us up here in the PNW and the mountain midwest will have to give you a demonstration of the 2nd amendment if you ever get into power... considering the significant connection we have to canada up here.... especially trade wise.

    I will state this, I am not anti government... if someone like you ever becomes the government, I'm breaking out the guns.....
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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    well I guess those of us up here in the PNW and the mountain midwest will have to give you a demonstration of the 2nd amendment if you ever get into power... considering the significant connection we have to canada up here.... especially trade wise.
    Then maybe you folks should seceed and join Canada if you like Canadians so much. Wonder how well your sight picture looks hopped up on all that legal marijuana out there.

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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

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    Then maybe you folks should seceed and join Canada if you like Canadians so much. Wonder how well your sight picture looks hopped up on all that legal marijuana out there.
    I wonder how yours will look when you're put on baker hold and forced to take your meds...
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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I wonder how yours will look when you're put on baker hold and forced to take your meds...
    Already dealt with.... My Living Will demands that I not be given any food or water if ever forcibly sent to a hospital or mental health facility. 8-10 days and it's all over.

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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

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    Already dealt with.... My Living Will demands that I not be given any food or water if ever forcibly sent to a hospital or mental health facility. 8-10 days and it's all over.
    ha, your living will does not forbid the police from declaring you a danger to yourself and others (which you probably are) and sending you to the wacky shack for 48 hours for observation......

    can you believe it? now our forum lawyer is an expert in end of life care decisions
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    Re: U.S. immigration bill 'in doubt' this year, Republican Ryan says

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    ha, your living will does not forbid the police from declaring you a danger to yourself and others (which you probably are) and sending you to the wacky shack for 48 hours for observation......
    Doesn't make a difference. My DNR and Living Will are on file with the State. Any facility in the Communistwealth of Massachusetts will have access to it, and I've got a lawyer who is willing to fight it all the way to the top if necessary..... Of course that's suggesting that they could take me alive to begin with, which would be a trick in and of itself.

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