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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Dammit. Is this really what America is becoming? A grown ass man pulled a gun on a girl scout for selling cookies and people are defending that.
    Not so much defending the idiot that pointed a gun at a young girl for knocking on his door, but rather disgusted that this non story that couldn't even garner a full story from the LATimes, being used as another 'ah ha' moment to rail against gun ownership.
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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I really do not understand extreme paranoia. I'm all for gun ownership, but it is important for people to be responsible gun owners, not paranoid idiots.

    Now, it is completely possible that the whole story is not as reported and someone is lying about or exaggerating the situation. On the other hand, I witnessed a guy pull out a handgun in the middle of our neighborhood and threaten to shoot our dog who was across the street fighting his dog and reaiming the gun toward several people in the neighborhood to make the threat. People can be idiots. So if this is true, the guy deserves to be in trouble. Responsible gun owners do not answer their doors aiming a gun at someone who they are not positive is an actual threat.

    And there is a lot of paranoia out there if you think anyone knocking at your door is going to invade your home, particularly during daylight hours. While I think guns can save people during in an actual home invasion, it won't be because you shot someone before they even showed themselves as a threat at all or threatened them prior to that time. It will be because you are smart about when you use your gun and how. Answering the door with it aimed to shoot whoever is there, regardless of the threat that person actually poses is not being smart, at all.
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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not so much defending the idiot that pointed a gun at a young girl for knocking on his door, but rather disgusted that this non story that couldn't even garner a full story from the LATimes, being used as another 'ah ha' moment to rail against gun ownership.
    Holy **** dude. Do you read the articles? This is back to back threads where it doesnt seem like you have. This article was not a "full story" it was a quick story that was a few sentences long and nowhere, not one line in the little ass article did it make any attempt to rail against or even mention gun ownership. They simply stated something that happened. The end. No editorial. Please, open the articles, read them. Then comment.
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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I really do not understand extreme paranoia. I'm all for gun ownership, but it is important for people to be responsible gun owners, not paranoid idiots.

    Now, it is completely possible that the whole story is not as reported and someone is lying about or exaggerating the situation. On the other hand, I witnessed a guy pull out a handgun in the middle of our neighborhood and threaten to shoot our dog who was across the street fighting his dog and reaiming the gun toward several people in the neighborhood to make the threat. People can be idiots. So if this is true, the guy deserves to be in trouble. Responsible gun owners do not answer their doors aiming a gun at someone who they are not positive is an actual threat.

    And there is a lot of paranoia out there if you think anyone knocking at your door is going to invade your home, particularly during daylight hours. While I think guns can save people during in an actual home invasion, it won't be because you shot someone before they even showed themselves as a threat at all or threatened them prior to that time. It will be because you are smart about when you use your gun and how. Answering the door with it aimed to shoot whoever is there, regardless of the threat that person actually poses is not being smart, at all.
    I agree. That is just pure paranoia and stupidity IMO.

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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Holy **** dude. Do you read the articles? This is back to back threads where it doesnt seem like you have. This article was not a "full story" it was a quick story that was a few sentences long and nowhere, not one line in the little ass article did it make any attempt to rail against or even mention gun ownership. They simply stated something that happened. The end. No editorial. Please, open the articles, read them. Then comment.
    Holy **** dude, I wasn't speaking of the article itself, I know it was simply a blurb....But the underlying reasons that this thread was started with such a short piece, and then put out there as some kind of anti gun thread, as if we don't have enough of those, is what I was talking about....Even your own addition that I commented on was generalizing all gun owners in to a group that would be that stupid as to answer a door pointing a gun....If that wasn't what you meant to do then I might suggest that you think out your words before posting them.
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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Holy **** dude, I wasn't speaking of the article itself, I know it was simply a blurb....
    Oh. Well I was confused when you said "ather disgusted that this non story that couldn't even garner a full story from the LATimes". Silly me, when I read, full story from the LATimes I assumed you were talking about the full story from the LATimes.

    But the underlying reasons that this thread was started with such a short piece, and then put out there as some kind of anti gun thread, as if we don't have enough of those, is what I was talking about
    Really? Because your post specifically was talking about the article which I gathered since specifically mentioned the article in a thread about that exact article.

    If that wasn't what you meant to do then I might suggest that you think out your words before posting them.
    Oh my how original. A guy on a forum randomly telling someone they should think before they post things. Wow. You must be the first guy ever to say that. I hope you feel super cool right now.
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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Oh. Well I was confused when you said "ather disgusted that this non story that couldn't even garner a full story from the LATimes". Silly me, when I read, full story from the LATimes I assumed you were talking about the full story from the LATimes.



    Really? Because your post specifically was talking about the article which I gathered since specifically mentioned the article in a thread about that exact article.



    Oh my how original. A guy on a forum randomly telling someone they should think before they post things. Wow. You must be the first guy ever to say that. I hope you feel super cool right now.

    Just giving some advice....I didn't start the snark pal....You did that....anyway, on the topic of the dumb ass answering a door with a gun pointed, we all agree that he was stupid....There you go, topic solved....Close the thread.
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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just giving some advice....I didn't start the snark pal....You did that....anyway, on the topic of the dumb ass answering a door with a gun pointed, we all agree that he was stupid....There you go, topic solved....Close the thread.
    I dont know what a snark is, but I replied to this thread. You started quoting me. Walking away is a good idea.
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    Re: Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I dont know what a snark is, but I replied to this thread. You started quoting me. Walking away is a good idea.
    Or else?
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