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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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    Thanks for proving my point.
    You had a point?
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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    You had a point?
    You're more than happy to tear down another human being for their weaknesses, but would die before sharing your own darkest faults on a public forum. That humility you talked about in your last post? You could use a little of that.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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    I wasn't calling Erod a drug addict, I was just saying what's the point of going on how he advertises himself? Almost nobody advertises their faults, just as Hoffman didn't advertise he was a drug addict.
    It was fairly well known that Hoffman was a drug addict, I don't think he felt the need to advertise. But drug addicts have a near limitless ability to self delude. Most of them would never be a drug addict if they didn't have that skill. You can show the Hoffman's of the world the horrible, time-tested end result of heroin use, which are no secret to anyone at this point, and the Hoffman's of the world will still shoot it in their veins because they believe they aren't weak like all those other people.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You're more than happy to tear down another human being for their weaknesses, but would die before sharing your own darkest faults on a public forum. That humility you talked about in your last post? You could use a little of that.
    That is my darkest secret. I am sorry that it isn't as stupid or dark as you would like.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Mr. Hoffman was a wrestler in high school which I can relate to since I've been involved with the sport all my life.
    I had an acting gig in HS and was really nervous but ended up doing well.
    It helped prepare me for being a teacher, though I was nervous to start every new year, trying to make a good impression.

    I'm not defending his use of heroin by any means, though prescription drugs are certainly a gateway here.
    I think the greater problem here is the prescription drugs, and how they're felt to "help" the actor focus and get through the perceived pressure .
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It was fairly well known that Hoffman was a drug addict, I don't think he felt the need to advertise.
    I wasn't commenting on how well known his addiction was, but that he didn't advertise it. And nobody should be expected to, either, so it's stupid to just accept how you or Erod market yourselves to the public. And to then have to listen to you judge others so completely is eye roll worthy at best.
    But drug addicts have a near limitless ability to self delude.
    I almost entirely agree with this, actually.
    Most of them would never be a drug addict if they didn't have that skill. You can show the Hoffman's of the world the horrible, time-tested end result of heroin use, which are no secret to anyone at this point, and the Hoffman's of the world will still shoot it in their veins because they believe they aren't weak like all those other people.
    I don't buy that. I've known drug addicts as well and nearly all of them wished they could quit. I can't actually recall a single one who deluded himself on his supposed strength. They were all well aware of their weakness and wished they could stop.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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    That is my darkest secret.
    Yes. I "believe" this.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Mr. Hoffman was a wrestler in high school which I can relate to since I've been involved with the sport all my life.
    I had an acting gig in HS and was really nervous but ended up doing well.
    It helped prepare me for being a teacher, though I was nervous to start every new year, trying to make a good impression.

    I'm not defending his use of heroin by any means, though prescription drugs are certainly a gateway here.
    I think the greater problem here is the prescription drugs, and how they're felt to "help" the actor focus and get through the perceived pressure .
    (bold mine)

    Nobody is defending his heroin use. This shouldn't have to be said.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    (bold mine)

    Nobody is defending his heroin use. This shouldn't have to be said.
    It would appear that the heroin use extrapolated from the prescription drugs, which were legal.
    Again, as a teenager of the 60's/70's, I choose to "understand" his use, but not defend it.

    It's one of the few things I can say to sooth my former parents who have lost a child the same way.
    As I mentioned yesterday, this will be a teaching/learning moment for me, in his memory .
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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