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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This is unexpected of someone of his dignity and caliber. His talent will be greatly missed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/03/mo...ies-at-46.html
    Dignity? I didn't know dignity came with a needle in its arm.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Not to derail the thread but why?

    Legalization is the only thing that makes sense when you read this
    The more dead junkies the better, start thinning the herd.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The more dead junkies the better, start thinning the herd.
    The internet: making sociopathy mainstream since 1993.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Unbelievably great actor. One of my favorites. Perhaps his best role was one of his most unknown - and telling, apparently - in Owning Mahoney.

    Tremendous in Almost Famous, Capote, Boogie Nights, pretty much everything he did.

    That said, this ticks me off. Very little sympathy from here. Self-inflicted misery and catastrophe doesn't deserve the same pity as others. It's often an indication of overly inflated self-importance.

    To much is given, much is required, and Hoffman failed. Especially, he failed his children.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Unbelievably great actor. One of my favorites. Perhaps his best role was one of his most unknown - and telling, apparently - in Owning Mahoney.

    Tremendous in Almost Famous, Capote, Boogie Nights, pretty much everything he did.

    That said, this ticks me off. Very little sympathy from here. Self-inflicted misery and catastrophe doesn't deserve the same pity as others. It's often an indication of overly inflated self-importance.

    To much is given, much is required, and Hoffman failed. Especially, he failed his children.
    I agree, what kind of idiot does this with three young kids at home? It appears his true character was closer to this role he played not that long ago:


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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
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    and shaming in this thread is a product of ignorance and fear, and is the reason why brilliant, sensitive people like Hoffman turn to drugs in the first place, and stay on them in secret. On one hand people will acknowledge that he was a highly talented actor but it seems like a platitude because they fail to realize the kind of intimate understanding of human nature and intense empathy that these kinds of actors have in order to make them big screen material. Then they are thrown into fame and fortune, and it's too much. Societal ignorance and fear keeps these people isolated so that they feel they have to deal with their demons alone. Same thing happens with highly talented musicians all the time.

    What does it matter that he is rich and famous? That is all the more isolating. People who claim he had everything and stupidly threw it away are the kind of people who think money can buy happiness if you just have a lot of it.

    He recently lost his kids to a custody battle. That's just the kind of thing that would toss a former addict back into turmoil. Most rehab programs in the United States have a very intense anti-drug angle, otherwise they wouldn't get licensed; and people who relapse tend to be worse off because they have had new anti-drug programming put into them by rehab which makes them feel unable to reveal the relapse to anyone.

    That kind of isolation plus the low tolerance of sobriety is the perfect recipe for disaster. It's our anti-drug culture courtesy of nanny government, lack of any widespread harm reduction models, and the intense denial of addiction as DISEASE that creates the casualties. NYC doesn't even have a safe injection site with harm reduction resources. In a city that big, it's a crying shame.

    Yes PSH is personally responsible for his own actions, but you can't just peg it all on him like he was some careless derelict junkie. Mental health issues are complicated and in isolation they can be deadly.
    He WAS a careless drug addict. In fact, the description " careless drug addict " is redundant.

    HEROIN USE is a recipe for disaster and no, he doesn't get a pass becauss he shouldering the stress of. forrtune and fame.

    If there was ever a prime example for the continued prosecution of drug dealers and drug dealers, this is it.

    Drug addicts are selfish individuals. You mentioned his kids. He was kicked out of his home he shared with them because he was doing heroin.

    He knew how to get help, he knew there were people and doctors and proffesionals that could help, he could AFFORD that help but he chose the dope.

    I agree, drug addicts need help, but justifuing their self destructive behavior by claiming we should change our minds on the benefits of sobriety is counter productive.

    Addicts don't need more excuses and justifications. They don't need to hear some nonsense like " its societies fault, and the war on drugs fault, not yours ", they need to hear the truth.

    That if they continue they are going to DIE.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

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    Sorry, no love for a horse junkie that is willing to kill himself for his next high.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Sorry, no love for a horse junkie that is willing to kill himself for his next high.
    Truly you are faultless. Go. Go now and become a being of pure energy and light.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Truly you are faultless. Go. Go now and become a being of pure energy and light.
    Believe it or not, there are a lot of us that work, take care of our children, stay married to one person, and never touch illicit drugs or break major laws.

    I know that's virtually impossible for a liberal to comprehend. But we're out here, paying the freight.

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Believe it or not, there are a lot of us that work, take care of our children, stay married to one person, and never touch illicit drugs or break major laws.

    I know that's virtually impossible for a liberal to comprehend. But we're out here, paying the freight.
    Thank you for your self-marketed and self-packaged persona, but I don't recall Hoffman marketing himself as a drug addict either.

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