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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    ****ing asshole.

    Great actor. just... I can't stand these famous people doing this junk. You already live the posh easy life all while having people look up to you then you do this stupid ****. Jerk.

    Clearly you didn't have a settled enough life so may you find it now. RIP.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Of course I dismissed it! Because you came in at eleven pages, completely ignored the context of the discussion and just declared what people meant by their own words instead of asking for clarification because, as you said, you need zero proof or interpretation of their posts. Utter arrogance!
    THere was no clarification needed. You asked me to show where people made excuses for him...and I did. *I* needed nothing. It fit directly into the discussion at the time.

    And of course you dismiss it because I provided the proof you demanded and it was inconvenient to your argument. Just as continuing with the discussion would be 'inconvenient' so you declare it irrelevant and arrogant.

    Get over yourself. Man up and quit the bobbing and weaving. I wont bother providing proof in the future. It's obvious that you'll reject it if you dont like it.

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    Nobody is defending his heroin use. This shouldn't have to be said.
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    Odd, I found several people in this thread were at least making excuses for it....that is defending it IMO.
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    Quote for me one of these posts.
    I posted 2.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    THere was no clarification needed. You asked me to show where people made excuses for him...and I did. *I* needed nothing. It fit directly into the discussion at the time.

    And of course you dismiss it because I provided the proof you demanded and it was inconvenient to your argument. Just as continuing with the discussion would be 'inconvenient' so you declare it irrelevant and arrogant.

    Get over yourself. Man up and quit the bobbing and weaving. I wont bother providing proof in the future. It's obvious that you'll reject it if you dont like it.

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    I posted 2.
    I didn't see any "excuses" made, as in "It's not his fault"

    IMO, any who thinks that, when it comes to addition, there is just one thing to blame has a pretty simple minded view of addiction.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I didn't see any "excuses" made, as in "It's not his fault"

    IMO, any who thinks that, when it comes to addition, there is just one thing to blame has a pretty simple minded view of addiction.
    My definition of 'excuses' here were all the reasons they listed for him to need heroin. People were using it, IMO, as a way to defend his use.

    The context was not addiction but use.

    I refrained from providing my opinion on use, as the mods were clear that this is an RIP thread.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    My definition of 'excuses' here were all the reasons they listed for him to need heroin. People were using it, IMO, as a way to defend his use.

    The context was not addiction but use.

    I refrained from providing my opinion on use, as the mods were clear that this is an RIP thread.
    I did not see anyone say he "needed" heroin. I must have missed that comment
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I did not see anyone say he "needed" heroin. I must have missed that comment
    The posts I quoted showed people's speculation on why he used it....and IMO they were excuses....they were all based on need. (I think all, I havent looked at them recently).
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman[W:90]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This is unexpected of someone of his dignity and caliber. His talent will be greatly missed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/03/mo...ies-at-46.html
    I am said that he his dead, for his fans but more importantly for his family/loved ones. They will have to miss someone they truly loved.

    But as for him? I am sorry that he is dead but the only one anyone can blame for this is PSH himself, drugs kill, everybody knows that. Continued use of drugs usually kills people, if not in the short term then it will kill them in the long term.

    Mr. Hoffman killed himself with his irresponsible behavior and it is his loved ones who are paying the price for his drugs taking. They are the ones who have to miss their loved one. I might sound like a jerk, but I used to be addicted to gambling and know that it is hard to stop doing something you mentally and physically are hooked on, but mollycoddling junkies is not going to help them. The harsh and painful truth is the only thing that can help someone.

    Philip Seymour Hoffman selfishly choose his addiction over his children and even though it is sad for everybody around him that he is dead, this might be a wake up call to other celebrity and non-celebrity drug addicts that it can and will happen to all those who choose to feed their habit, this is the ultimate price you will pay.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The posts I quoted showed people's speculation on why he used it....and IMO they were excuses....they were all based on need. (I think all, I havent looked at them recently).
    People certainly did speculate on why he used it, but that doesn't make it an excuse or a statement that he needed heroin.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    People certainly did speculate on why he used it, but that doesn't make it an excuse or a statement that he needed heroin.
    That's certainly how I interpreted their posts, that they were making excuses (I didnt claim he needed it, that seemed like speculation).

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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    That's certainly how I interpreted their posts.
    Yes, it certainly is.
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