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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The state of Utah has always impressed me, since I first went out there to Vernal in 1973.
    Lots of energy-producing plants and my buddies were Union of every type.
    They still had alcohol restrictions so we had to bring our own beer.

    Utah has had a string of very good governors.
    The Mormons are as brilliant as the Israelis when it comes to using their resources.
    They have done some "very minor" public/private ventures with their roads and rest stops.
    The Mormon church is fabulously wealty and they are reproducing at an impressive rate.

    I would trust Utah to be a leader in the engineering needed to move water from East to West .
    The oil & gas industry would have to be the leader of such an endeavor.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I guess you haven't met loyal Democrats who have very different leans, depending on the issue.

    For instance, I like Sen. Boxer but she can piss off on the Keystone pipe.
    That doesn't mean I support it as now outlined.
    This is a "regional" issue and I believe our politics are moving back to regionalism, though too slowly.
    I would support some kind of vote by the sum total of the SIX directly affected states.

    As you may have noticed, the "Farm" bill has loads of regional issues .
    Point well taken; the tree huggers would go bezerk. It's a given. There are tree huggers that protest against wind and solar farms. You can bet your ass that there are tree huggers that are going to flip their lids over a massive water pipeline running half way across the country.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't believe it would bother us tree huggers one iota. We're talkin' water not energy pollution.
    Tree huggers fight tooth and nail to stop wind and solar farms.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    I would keep the oil and gas industry as far away from water as possible.
    They've certainly done their share of damage to our water.
    besides, aren't they already into us for enough.
    No, I think your idea of public/private is the way to go, and Utah has already done it.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The oil & gas industry would have to be the leader of such an endeavor.
    Hell, in a hundred years the pipeline could be self-expandable so as to not be affected by a bad earthquake.
    I see this as a "Go To The Moon" time, not because it's there, but because we have toThe trip to the moon gave us technology that continues to multiply to this day .
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I would keep the oil and gas industry as far away from water as possible.
    They've certainly done their share of damage to our water.
    besides, aren't they already into us for enough.
    No, I think your idea of public/private is the way to go, and Utah has already done it.

    Hell, in a hundred years the pipeline could be self-expandable so as to not be affected by a bad earthquake.
    I see this as a "Go To The Moon" time, not because it's there, but because we have toThe trip to the moon gave us technology that continues to multiply to this day .
    You keep the oil & gas industry out of the engineering process and you'll have a pipeline that will be designed by people who have never built a pipeline in their lives. Why would you not exploit the knowledge and experience of the people who invented pipelines?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    ••Israel has been working on desalination for many decades. I'm guessing© the technology has been pretty advanced. The only real barrier is the cost.



    ••I certainly hope so. We'll pay off whomever we have to.



    ••Gee. Thanks. Can the cats and I move in with you? Just for a few years?



    ••Believe it or not, our zombie population has been shrinking. You can go hours without sighting one.



    ••Las Vegas is already (finally) developing a new source of economic revenue. We are in the process of becoming the center for clouds. Our University has gone from utterly lame to one of the top 10.



    ••Water is way too cheap. Once it cost 50˘ to take a shower, you'll see a big change in people's habits.

    I'll also point out that Las Vegas is a great place to live. Low cost of living. Plenty of entertainment. 24/7 businesses. Plenty of parking. The city is flat, easy to develope but we are ringed by beautiful mountains. The weather is moderate, just a couple of blazing hot Summer and yes, it's a DRY heat.

    Las Vegas is recovering in a healthy way. The losers moved away after the housing bust. The technology people are moving in. I went to a First Friday event recently and I was stunned by how the population has changed. So many "normal" people, nicely dressed, having fun. The changes are unbelievable to an old-timer like me.

    There is no more of this lawn stuff. Almost everyone has gone to desert landscaping. I expect that once water doubles in price, there will be plenty. We don't grow crops so unlike CA, we don't really NEED water.

    Now, obviously, I want all this to work out. And I think it will. Now, the CA crop issue is a lot more scary. Food is very important.
    As I said earlier though even with all Vegas has done to conserve water, lake Meade is still forecast to drop 20 feet in the next year. How long can this go on? What happens when it's dry?

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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    First thing the desert SW needs to do is stop exporting it's water to other states. Second thing to remember is it is a very arid climate and not well suited to be inhabited like it is a lush oasis in the desert. Third a prolonged drought might indicate climate change...

    Fourth, Lost Wages isn't the only place suffering from extended drought. Texoma is the area on both sides of the Red River separating Texas from Oklahoma. We have had record heat and prolonged drought to the point businesses don't want to relocate- even with the lower taxes and eager to work population. Local chambers and Quasi government committees who's sole job is to attract new business are getting no takers.

    Wichita Falls Texas is trying to figure out what a stage 5 drought policy should be- mostly because stage 5 was, until now, unthinkable. Reservoirs are so low that local hotels and restaurants don't serve glasses of water because it is often off tasting and off color.

    So this is a region wide drought, not just a playground in the desert's problem. Folks might be getting out while the getting is good across the entire SW.
    Lake Mead is part of the Colorado River. The water of the Colorado River is Federal water. California has already had 1/2 of it's water from the Colorado River intended for California's (Metropolitan Water District) diverted to Arizona because so many Americans have been fleeing to Arizona to get away from liberal Nanny States.

    And the liberal controlled State Legislature in Sacramento still has the "Welcome Matt" out on the California/Mexico border welcoming every illegal alien and telling them to send for their extended families because the stupid people of California are willing to pay for educating your children, provide basic health care at hospital emergency rooms. And as soon as you pop out an "anchor baby", you get WICS, food stamps, ADC welfare, in state tuition at colleges, subsidized housing, Obama phones and now drivers licenses. Oh yeah, you can also vote and buy guns.

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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Wrong again, but for different reasons, but I don't mean to be an ass about it.
    In Illinois, local GOP farmers were forced to take "wind-farm" money under eminent domain.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Tree huggers fight tooth and nail to stop wind and solar farms.
    Beautiful brick homes, a lifelong dream, shattered by a field of electromagnetic impulses of unknown damage and unsightlyness..

    Btw, the wind and solar are 15% of new energy by law, written by libbos.
    Aside, Illinois is not left or right of center that much either party.

    As for solar field, we're all in on one near me.
    Tons of money for all government/school entities.
    Farm field of lower grade.
    Farm field will go back to farming in 20 years .
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    You should start a thread on what you typed after the first two and a half sentences.
    I assume you're linking Lake Mead going down due to illegal aliens and rant.
    Do you know the history of the Colorado River and water that coulda/woulda/shoulda gone to Mexico ?
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Lake Mead is part of the Colorado River. The water of the Colorado River is Federal water. California has already had 1/2 of it's water from the Colorado River intended for California's (Metropolitan Water District) diverted to Arizona because so many Americans have been fleeing to Arizona to get away from liberal Nanny States.

    And the liberal controlled State Legislature in Sacramento still has the "Welcome Matt" out on the California/Mexico border welcoming every illegal alien and telling them to send for their extended families because the stupid people of California are willing to pay for educating your children, provide basic health care at hospital emergency rooms. And as soon as you pop out an "anchor baby", you get WICS, food stamps, ADC welfare, in state tuition at colleges, subsidized housing, Obama phones and now drivers licenses. Oh yeah, you can also vote and buy guns.
    Physics is Phun

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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Wrong again, but for different reasons, but I don't mean to be an ass about it.
    In Illinois, local GOP farmers were forced to take "wind-farm" money under eminent domain.

    Beautiful brick homes, a lifelong dream, shattered by a field of electromagnetic impulses of unknown damage.

    Btw, the wind and solar are 15% of new energy by law, written by libbos.
    Aside, Illinois is not left or right of center that much either party.

    As for solar field, we're all in on one near me.
    Tons of money for all government/school entities.
    Farm field of lower grade.
    Farm field will go back to farming in 20 years .
    No, I'm not wrong...

    Environmentalists Gearing Up For A War On Wind - Forbes

    Wind power creating an environmental divide - Business - The Boston Globe

    Environmentalists Oppose Mojave Desert Solar Power | Heartlander Magazine

    Environmentalists who backed solar farms now oppose them
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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