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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The way I look at it, any rain that falls out of the sky that falls on privately owned property belongs to the owner of that property, not the federal or state government or anyone else.

    It's the property owners personal property until the runoff reaches a stream and contributory to a waterway, river, etc. then the water belongs to who ever has water rights to the water. Once a waterway become navigable, where you can put a row boat or canoe in the waterway, it usually becomes federal water.
    At least that is how it should be.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    I consider the runoff from flooding to be a waste also.
    If there were a economical way to build reservoirs to store some of that runoff that would help some.
    I'm becoming more serious each post about the water pipe-line from the Mississippi River to the Colorado river at Page,
    during times of floods and high water.
    All states along the way will benefit.

    At this point Oklahoma might have to look forward to getting water from a desalination plant in the Gulf.
    There's been a lot of talk from the California people about how desalination is so expensive.
    With the energy boom in the Keystone states, you guys just might be able to pull it off .
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    I personally would shut down municipal golf courses and make the remainder pay through the teeth for their water.

    The article that I referenced said only 12% use recycled water and that does not imply that they recycle the water that they use.
    They should just use recycled water for all of them.

    I figured 1/6 of the Colorado river water, but that was based on a billion gallons. Could it really be more like 1/3? That is way too much just for a game.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm becoming more serious each post about the water pipe-line from the Mississippi River to the Colorado river at Page,
    during times of floods and high water.
    All states along the way will benefit.



    There's been a lot of talk from the California people about how desalination is so expensive.
    With the energy boom in the Keystone states, you guys just might be able to pull it off .
    This is not a new problem. Water export - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    People with foresight should be looking to the Keystone pipeline as well, especially since no new sources of energy are being constructed. There seems to be a serious lack of leadership regarding issues that really are a matter of life and death.

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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    This just goes to show you never know. No matter how hard people plan there can always be the unexpected. Who could have ever guessed that millions of people moving to live in a semi-arid desert could possibly ever have a water shortage?

    Maybe some of them should move to some place more geographically rational. Like New Orleans.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm becoming more serious each post about the water pipe-line from the Mississippi River to the Colorado river at Page,
    during times of floods and high water.
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    Or... they could truck in pieces of icebergs.

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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    The fact is there have always been times of flood and times of drought all over the Earth. Drought is a relative term. Normal rainfall/snowfall takes care of us quite nicely, keeps the streams and rivers flowing, the reservoirs full, and the vegetation, including the forested areas, healthy. But normal rainfall/snowfall for us would be devastating drought in say Kansas or New York state or Oregon.

    Nimby's vision of transporting excess water, most especially flood waters, from the east to the west may indeed be a reality at some point. Meanwhile water conservation and protecting existing water supplies is reasonable, and of course it is appropriate for the federal government to regulate the water from rivers that are shared by multiple states. New Mexico would be in tough shape if Colorado decided to divert the Rio Grande for all its own use and did not allow any flow into New Mexico. And Texas requires that we allow sufficient water from the Rio Grande to flow on into Texas too. I can't imagine how all that is calculated, but each state seems to know how much water it is allowed to have.

    But the Rio Grande is a puny little river compared to those in some of the other states. Even the mighty Mississippi has had its problems--massive flooding in some years, and more recently so dry that the barges had to be very careful how they tracked up and down it to avoid hitting ground.

    All this is to say that even with a method of transporting too abundant water from the east to the thirsty west, there will likely still be years of feast and famine. And we humans will figure out how to survive just the same.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They should just use recycled water for all of them.

    I figured 1/6 of the Colorado river water, but that was based on a billion gallons. Could it really be more like 1/3? That is way too much just for a game.
    The article said that recycled water was not available in a lot of their areas or some more would use it. I'm just glad that now there are now cities that are now dispensing with the idea of English style lawns.
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    We could use that salt back here EAST of the Mississippi River with another heavy winter.
    Tell you what, we'll transport our flood waters and take your ocean salt.
    In Illinois, we call that quid pro quo, pay for play, governors go to jail.
    I'm already bargaining for Hudson Bay water in exchange for KXL .
    If you're going to use pipelines, we will need to study environmental impacts for about 5 years of better....K?
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    Re: Lake Mead is shrinking -- and with it Las Vegas' water supply

    Since you imply the KXL with the 5-year studies, I'm all in on KXL, and shutting up the Obama detractors is the least of my reasons.
    I can't even make a good faith attempt at solving what is a very real problem right now, drought, without snark.
    Maybe if I call it "water inequality" it would get the attention of some, since it is mostly western states in drought.
    But wait, you haven't heard any talk so far about looming Eastern floods
    due to frozen rivers, lack of thaw, and record snow-pack east of the Mississippi .
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you're going to use pipelines, we will need to study environmental impacts for about 5 years of better....K?
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