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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The Polanski case is totally different since the victim in that case forgave Polanski and wanted the charged against him dropped, however the brain-starved loony CA DA wanted to drag out the saga again anyway, forcing Samantha to testify and re-live the whole thing even though she wanted nothing to do w/it.
    The DA considered himself under obligation to put Polanski on trial if he could and just because the victim has forgiven Polanski that is not a reason not to do a trial. One must remember what he was charged with, statutory rape, and that is considered serious enough to prosecute even after all this time.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    For people who come from free countries, the US is indeed like a prison.
    LOL-free being child sex and porn being legal?



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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Simple solution, if the Itallians ask for extradition just send them OJ instead.
    I thought you were going to say send them Obama. Aren't the Italians still upset about American "agents" scooping up that Egyptian Imam on terrorist charges a few years back - don't they have some US soldiers in custody on that? Would hate to see a kind of "hostage taking" situation develop between the two countries.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah an American citizen who engaged in a crime in America and was never tried--a bit more blatant than this case
    Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Polanski was convicted and got a higher sentence than he plea bargained for and then skipped town while it was being appealed.

    The point was, with Snowden too, that other countries may not think much of the American justice systems handling of cases just as Americans now don't think much of the Italian justice system in this case.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What is funny here is Americans actually believe this bitch because she is pretty and has a good PR team.

    I too followed the case pretty closely and can say I have serious doubts about her and the boyfriend. They acted very strangely after the murder and had inconsistent stories. Along with the evidence that was not tainted by incompetence.. like that the whole scene looked staged as a burglary.. and you can only conclude that either they did it or were heavily involved in the murder.

    As for the trial being a sham trial and the Italian court system being inept and corrupt.. funny coming from the Americans.. who piss up and down on the law depending on how much money you have or where you are from. Amanda got consular help.. pity the US does not give that to people visiting the US..

    Well I Amanda Knox wont be leaving the US for the rest of her life.. because step outside and an international arrest warrant will bring her back to Italy to serve her time.

    Send us Roman Polanski and you can have Amanda Knox.

    Funny how you were the first to defend France for not extraditing Polanski but when the shoe is on the other foot, you cry. Laughable.

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Polanski was convicted and got a higher sentence than he plea bargained for and then skipped town while it was being appealed.

    The point was, with Snowden too, that other countries may not think much of the American justice systems handling of cases just as Americans now don't think much of the Italian justice system in this case.
    As an American, I'll be the first to admit that our justice system is a joke. I'm not a fan. I also think patriotism is retarded.

    However, I don't know a thing about the Italian justice system so I can't say if it's any better or worse. I'm honestly not interested in knowing either because it's not something that will ever affect me.

    Also, for anyone to be bitching about America not extraditing this woman when you have Roman Polanski sitting in France sipping wine is hypocritical.

    What we need to do, and this goes for both the Europeans and Americans, is quit doing our "ra ra" patriotism gig, and quit refusing to extradite criminals because we believe our own courts are superior to everyone else's.

    I have no time for that.

    What we need to do is worry about getting to the truth. Did Polansky rape a 13 year old girl? Yes, so he should be punished. Simple. Did this Amanda Knox kill someone in Italy? I don't know. If she didn't, don't send her back. If she did, then she needs to be in jail and not in a safe haven.

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I thought you were going to say send them Obama. Aren't the Italians still upset about American "agents" scooping up that Egyptian Imam on terrorist charges a few years back - don't they have some US soldiers in custody on that? Would hate to see a kind of "hostage taking" situation develop between the two countries.
    I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Please provide a link about US soldiers who are in custody in Italy on such charges.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Polanski was convicted and got a higher sentence than he plea bargained for and then skipped town while it was being appealed.

    The point was, with Snowden too, that other countries may not think much of the American justice systems handling of cases just as Americans now don't think much of the Italian justice system in this case.
    You are mistaken. Polanski drugged and raped an underage girl. He pleaded guilty, then escaped the country before he was sentenced, so the excuse that he "got more time than he bargained for" is totally bogus, since he was long gone before any sentence was pronounced.

    American justice may suck, as you consistently opine, but unlike Italy, we don't retry people time after time after time until we get the verdict that we want. Once a person is acquitted, jeopardy applies and that person cannot be tried for that crime ever again. Italy apparently can retry people until they are happy with the outcome, no matter how many trials they must have in order to get that outcome.

    Anything else about how horrible American justice is that you'd like to fling at the wall in the hope that it sticks?

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    American justice may suck, as you consistently opine, but unlike Italy, we don't retry people time after time after time until we get the verdict that we want. Once a person is acquitted, jeopardy applies and that person cannot be tried for that crime ever again. Italy apparently can retry people until they are happy with the outcome, no matter how many trials they must have in order to get that outcome.

    Anything else about how horrible American justice is that you'd like to fling at the wall in the hope that it sticks?
    How about getting to the truth? I think that's more important than preserving some ideal of double jeopardy.

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How about getting to the truth? I think that's more important than preserving some ideal of double jeopardy.
    Kinda hard to get at "the truth" when the investigation and evidence gathering has been tainted by inept, completely incompetent investigators. But hey, if you are one of those that believes that it's okay to keep trying people over and over and over again, until the "correct" verdict has finally been reached, I suggest that this side of the pond is probably not where your heart or your ideology lies.

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Kinda hard to get at "the truth" when the investigation and evidence gathering has been tainted by inept, completely incompetent investigators. But hey, if you are one of those that believes that it's okay to keep trying people over and over and over again, until the "correct" verdict has finally been reached, I suggest that this side of the pond is probably not where your heart or your ideology lies.
    I'm a free-thinking man free of the burden of any borders.

    I believe what my logic and reasoning lead me to believe. And that is, there are times that double jeopardy is just fine.

    What if you try someone for murder and they're found innocent, but later new evidence arises.... a new witness, new DNA techniques, something of that ilk... so that you're now fairly certain the killer went free.

    In such a case, it's my opinion that there should be a re-trial.

    Now that said, you shouldn't be able to re-try over and over again on the same evidence. That would lead to witch hunts. But there are times when it is appropriate.

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