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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Nice try, but I'm not buying it. You are like a lot of European leftists - incredibly selective in the things that outrage you. You can always cherry pick anti-American bull**** from any newspaper, but you have to be looking for it in order to do so. I'd still bet the Guardian is on your daily reading list. It's anti-American from the first page to the last, and therefore is a great favorite with Euro-lefties.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, they refused to extradite him because A) they are France, B) it gave them a chance to stick their finger in the eye of America, C) he's famous, and D) rape of a 13 year old girl is no big deal in that cesspool of a country.
    Actually, the simple fact he's a French citizen - dual citizenship - and he was actually detained on the international warrant in Switzerland, so your main argument would be with the Swiss - however, just like Knox is an American citizen and the US will protect her interests against what it sees as injustice, so too will France protect its citizen against what it sees as injustice. It's really pretty simple and there's no need for nation bashing because of this.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    He has technically served his time according to the plea agreement so why extradite him? To put on a show trial so he can be kicked out?

    But I do understand why France refuse to extradite their citizens to the US... and I personally believe that no one should be extradited to the US and that is solely based on how bad the US justice system is. We hear time and time again of people getting shafted by the American justice system, and as long as people are refused everything from consular assistance to having agreements ripped up once they are extradited.. well then. The American justice system.. well parts, needs to learn that a deal is a deal and there are international agreements and laws that every US state has to follow.
    The US justice system has it's flaws but limiting how many times a prosecutor can bring a trial against someone for the same offence isn't one of them. With the power of the state behind the prosecutor they couldn't stand up to the appeals process in an Italian court of law. If you're going to blame anyone blame the prosecutor that couldn't prove to the appellate court that the verdict should stick. That doesn't mean he should have the ability to bring a trial until he gets the verdict he wants.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    If Italy issues an extradition request, then it's not only legal considerations that come into play. She has popular support and a couple of high-placed politicians right now, but then future cooperation from Italy/Europe on American extradition requests has to be taken into account. I reckon it's 50/50 on her being sent back. Eventually.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian court - CNN.com

    apparently she was sentenced to 28.5 years

    of course she isn't in Italy

    I think the verdict is more of a condemnation of the laughably inept, corrupt and completely dysfunctional Italian justice system.

    One former prosecutor doubts the USA would grant extradition given the double jeopardy argument



    I followed this trial pretty closely and read numerous reviews. Based on what I learned, I would have "Rule 29'd" the case. (meaning grant the defense a directed verdict at the close of the prosecution case). The Prosecution was a joke in this matter



    If the USA doesn't send this young lady to Italy when Italy asks for her extradition, the USA can probably forget about Italy ever sending anyone to the USA.




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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If Italy issues an extradition request, then it's not only legal considerations that come into play. She has popular support and a couple of high-placed politicians right now, but then future cooperation from Italy/Europe on American extradition requests has to be taken into account. I reckon it's 50/50 on her being sent back. Eventually.
    I don't think so honestly. She would of been easily extradited if this was the first case but there's no way the US extradites someone that was already released on the same charges. L
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Oh get off your high horse. Most people who the US wants extradited get extradited.. even the mentally handicapped. The only reason that Polanski has not been given over is because he is a French citizen and the French do not hand French citizens over to other countries that have the death penalty.

    And based on one case you are slandering the whole of Europe. Fact is Europe usually bends over backwards to please its US master when it comes to extraditing people, where as
    the US harbours everything from Nazi war criminals to convicted terrorists
    and refuses to hand them over.



    And CIA torturers.

    Let's not forget them.

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    The "new evidence" defense for this current trial and guilty verdict has been brought up numerous times in this thread. I (and others) have asked exactly what this "new evidence" was. If that question has been answered, I have missed it. Could someone please enlighten me about this new evidence please?

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The "new evidence" defense for this current trial and guilty verdict has been brought up numerous times in this thread. I (and others) have asked exactly what this "new evidence" was. If that question has been answered, I have missed it. Could someone please enlighten me about this new evidence please?
    There was no new evidence because this was not a new trial, but the completion of the appeal process from the original trial. The acquittal came as a result of the appeal of the first verdict. The new guilty verdict comes as a result of the prosecution appealing the acquittal, due to incorrect procedure. As I said previously, this is not a double jeopardy case.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The "new evidence" defense for this current trial and guilty verdict has been brought up numerous times in this thread. I (and others) have asked exactly what this "new evidence" was. If that question has been answered, I have missed it. Could someone please enlighten me about this new evidence please?
    the incompetent prosecution was the laughing stock of the world and the Italians want to save face



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