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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    If Knox doesn't return why should countries go out of there way to send people the other way. Indeed it was a one way extradition system to start with, but now it looks set to become ever more ridiculous with one rule for Americans and another for the rest of us.

    Amanda Knox will not return to Italy to serve sentence, say parents | World news | theguardian.com

    We'd rather die than rot in a US jail, say British couple facing extradition for '$1m expenses fiddle' | Mail Online
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What is funny here is Americans actually believe this bitch because she is pretty and has a good PR team.

    I too followed the case pretty closely and can say I have serious doubts about her and the boyfriend. They acted very strangely after the murder and had inconsistent stories. Along with the evidence that was not tainted by incompetence.. like that the whole scene looked staged as a burglary.. and you can only conclude that either they did it or were heavily involved in the murder.

    As for the trial being a sham trial and the Italian court system being inept and corrupt.. funny coming from the Americans.. who piss up and down on the law depending on how much money you have or where you are from. Amanda got consular help.. pity the US does not give that to people visiting the US..

    Well I Amanda Knox wont be leaving the US for the rest of her life.. because step outside and an international arrest warrant will bring her back to Italy to serve her time.
    So you're all for extraditing Polanski back to the US then?
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So you're all for extraditing Polanski back to the US then?
    I don't see the connection.

    It may be that it's a combination of his fame and the bungling of the prosecution in California that has kept him in France. I guess those same factors may keep Knox away from an Italian prison too.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatter View Post
    If Knox doesn't return why should countries go out of there way to send people the other way. Indeed it was a one way extradition system to start with, but now it looks set to become ever more ridiculous with one rule for Americans and another for the rest of us.

    Amanda Knox will not return to Italy to serve sentence, say parents | World news | theguardian.com

    We'd rather die than rot in a US jail, say British couple facing extradition for '$1m expenses fiddle' | Mail Online
    But if there are systemic inadequacies in the Italian legal system then why should extradition be equal both ways?

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    But if there are systemic inadequacies in the Italian legal system then why should extradition be equal both ways?
    The US signed an extradition treaty with Italy in which it adhered to it's criminal system. If you don't agree with a countries criminal system then don't sign such treaties, and if you refuse to extradite people to countries you have extradition treaties with then do not be surprised if they do the same in return.

    In terms of the UK, they current Home Secretary tried to improve a very one sided treaty with the US, however it is still very one sided, and needs to be looked at again, as the initial treaty was signed by Blair in a knee jerk reaction to 9/11 and was really meant as a way to extradite terrorists. However it became used more and more by the Americans in cases of normal criminal law.

    Thankfully there were some changes made following the McKinnon case in 2012, although some critics of the treaty would like to see further change.

    Not so special relationship - overhauling the 'unbalanced' UK/US extradition treaty - Legalweek
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    But if there are systemic inadequacies in the Italian legal system then why should extradition be equal both ways?
    Because that's the treaty both sides signed up to. If you are perturbed by systemic inadequacies (and frankly, which legal system isn't rife with inadequacies?) then you need to renegotiate your treaty, not behave as if it is only applicable when you decide you want it to be.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

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    I wouldn't expect any sophistication, intelligence or wit from you, never mind matching that of others.
    Well, we can always count on you for foaming at the mouth anti-American bull****, regardless of the subject matter. I expect everything you know about America you learned from the Guardian. We always take that into account when discussing things with you 'intellectuals'.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Oh get off your high horse. Most people who the US wants extradited get extradited.. even the mentally handicapped. The only reason that Polanski has not been given over is because he is a French citizen and the French do not hand French citizens over to other countries that have the death penalty.

    And based on one case you are slandering the whole of Europe. Fact is Europe usually bends over backwards to please its US master when it comes to extraditing people, where as the US harbours everything from Nazi war criminals to convicted terrorists and refuses to hand them over.
    'U.S. masters' - ever the refrain of the truly committed anti-American. Ahhh, if only that was the case. I can think of a few changes I'd make. Nazi War Criminals? Really? we deport them quite regularly, although they're getting fewer and fewer as they die off. Could you list some of the convicted terrorists we are currently 'harboring'? More leftist drivel.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, we can always count on you for foaming at the mouth anti-American bull****, regardless of the subject matter. I expect everything you know about America you learned from the Guardian. We always take that into account when discussing things with you 'intellectuals'.
    I am hardly foaming at the mouth and most of my quotes have been from CNN, The NY Times and the Wall Street Journal rather than the Guardian. I don't see how pointing out problems in relation to extradition treaties is Anti-American or commenting on those Americans who are attacking the Italian Justice system whilst heralding their own Justice System as a beacon of greatness. The US Justice System being far from perfect itself.
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