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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I mentioned Roman Polanski earlier, but what I forgot was the much more current name in the extradition circus news - Edward Snowden.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we have a saying here in the states

    better ten guilty go free rather than one innocent be hung. I believe OJ was obviously guilty. The judge in that case was a joke and thus the guilty went free. But we didn't retry him.
    I don't want to hijack the thread, but have to respond to this - I spent a lot of time following the actual testamony of this trial and while people always had the "feeling" that OJ did it, the prosecution in the case was a complete cluster**** of incompetence and they did not prove the case against OJ. While the verdict was deemed to be racially motivated and a form of jury nullification, I had said to many friends and coworkers at the time, before the verdict, that OJ was going to be acquitted.

    I would point out that you have been bashing the Italian justice system as incompetent and a joke and the OJ case and others (Casey Anthony comes to mind) may prove that in high profile cases, the microscopic focus the media places on the trial and evidence makes many trials seem like a joke.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Totally irrelevant what nationality she is. Her then boyfriend also got convicted and is in custody. The victim was British, why no compassion for her and her family?
    Compassion for the victim is not the issue. Compassion for Meredith goes without saying. This issue is a joke of a legal system and the selective outrage of some of you here, when criminals seeking shelter in Europe from U.S. justice go by without a mention from any of you. Hell, Knox may be guilty, but you would never know that based on the farce of a trial they conducted in Italy.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    and most of Europe blocked his entry which included using airspace.
    Indeed, because they didn't want to get into a messy extradition battle with the US.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    The case for professional juries: exhibit A
    The fact that she looks like a murderer may indeed have played a part in the verdict.

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Hardly answers the question, does it? Which country has more individual freedom - at least as defined by a Libertarian - than the United States? Surely you can come up with one country for which you would abandon the repressive hellhole that you consider the United States to be.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The Knox-Sollecito case is not a case of double jeopardy. The trial that has just ended was a part of the original case. The acquittal of the two by the appellate court was set aside, and a new appeal ordered. At least, that's my understanding of it. The set-aside was argued on the basis of wrongful procedures during the acquittal hearing.

    There's no doubt that all the elements of this murder investigation; the Guede-Lumumba confusion, the handling of evidence, the media manipulation and the whole international element have made this case a prime mess. Does all that mean a final conclusion can never be reached? I don't know, and I don't think anyone else here does either. This is a terrible situation for everyone, but it does jibe a bit that certain elements are trying to turn Knox into the victim of this. There's only one victim here, and that's Meredith Kercher.
    Who's her family? Has she got an affluenza defense?
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. there was not even probable cause she is guilty.

    Most euro nations have refused to honor extradition treaties to send a person back to the USA for a death penalty trial. That often involves AMERICAN nationals who have fled.

    The Italian court system isn't just bad, its a complete joke. Every possible screw up I have ever seen in 24 years of reviewing federal criminal cases was made in the Knox case. Tainted evidence poor investigations, lack of a motive, ignoring obvious more probable suspects etc etc etc
    But, but, but....she's American! Its the once chance for a worthless country like Italy to get some payback for God knows what.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    But, but, but....she's American! Its the once chance for a worthless country like Italy to get some payback for God knows what.
    It sure appears that's been a factor in this whole thing.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Hardly answers the question, does it? Which country has more individual freedom - at least as defined by a Libertarian - than the United States? Surely you can come up with one country for which you would abandon the repressive hellhole that you consider the United States to be.
    Do you believe Canada has less individual freedom than the US?
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