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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

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    and yet if the US doesnt get what it wants it throws the toys out of the pram...
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Amanda looks like a murderer to me. If I was casting a movie about a murder like this I would pick her, she has evil eyes.

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Amanda looks like a murderer to me. If I was casting a movie about a murder like this I would pick her, she has evil eyes.
    In a thread filled with stupidity, anti American idiocy and lots of people who have no clue about criminal procedure, this post is either brilliant sarcasm or the nadir of intellect



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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    That was all under the corrupt American system, and therefore irrelevant..
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    In a thread filled with stupidity, anti American idiocy and lots of people who have no clue about criminal procedure, this post is either brilliant sarcasm or the nadir of intellect

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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    What a farce. She was tried and found not guilty. They need to leave the poor girl alone.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    They need to leave the poor girl alone.
    Shame someone didn't think that when they were murdering Meredith Kercher. They've been found guilty twice, been acquitted once. The level of anti-Italian/anti-European hysteria in this thread is more than in proportion with any anti-American sentiment involved in this case, it far exceeds it.

    I'm not convinced Knox and Sollecito did it, and I'm not convinced that they didn't. Whose opinion should be the deciding factor? I guess the jury's, and that's currently a guilty verdict, with a right of appeal. If the appeal is lost, then Knox should be extradited, like any other convicted murderer.

    If you have an extradition treaty then you have already agreed to abide by the decisions of the court of that country. If you are sceptical of its impartiality or incorruptibility then you need to revoke the treaty. A treaty that one party refuses to honour is really no treaty at all.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    This could also further strain relations with Italy which has in recent decades already been unhappy with the extradition arrangements it has with the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by CNN

    Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz added: "As popular as she is here and as pretty as she is here -- because that's what this is all about, if

    "The Italian legal system, though I don't love it, is a legitimate legal system and we have a treaty with Italy so I don't see how we would resist," he told AFP.

    "We're trying to get (fugitive NSA leaker Edward) Snowden back -- how does it look if we want Snowden back and we won't return someone for murder?" he asked.

    There is a valid extradition agreement between Italy and the U.S., but the U.S. has not set much of a precedence in returning suspects for such matters. Italians point to a number of high-profile cases over the years in which they say American suspects have been accused of wrongdoing and criminal acts, but have been let off lightly.

    In 1998, an American military jet clipped a ski lift cable, sending a gondola of 20 passengers to their deaths in the Italian Dolomite Mountains.

    Italian prosecutors wanted the crew of the jet tried in Italy, but an Italian court ruled they should face courts-martial in the U.S., in accordance with NATO treaties. The aircraft's pilot and navigator were found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter, even though the military admitted the plane had been flying lower and faster than authorized.

    When it emerged that a video that captured the accident from inside the plane had been destroyed, they were dismissed from the Marine Corps. Italians were outraged, referring to the incident as the "massacre of Cermis."

    In another incident that raised tensions, Egyptian cleric Abu Omar was seized off the streets of Milan in 2003 and smuggled to Egypt, where he says he was tortured and released four years later.

    Although Italy did not request the extradition of any of the suspects, 22 CIA agents were convicted in absentia of the kidnapping and sentenced to prison time for their role in the abduction, but none ever served time in Italy.

    Amanda Knox retrial verdict: Six things to know - CNN.com
    Furthermore Meredith Kercher is a British Citizen, a country which has also been critical of the one way extradition street in terms if the US, with not one IRA Terrorist ever extradited from the US, but numerous people extradited from the UK since 9/11.

    Lets also not forget that America still keeps people locked away at Guantanamo Bay (some prisoners having been there nearly ten years) who have had no due process as all, at least Amanda Knox has been before a proper civil court.
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    Re: Amanda Knox found guilty of murder again by Italian Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Shame someone didn't say that to Knox and Sollecito when they were murdering Meredith Kercher. They've been found guilty twice, been acquitted once. The level of anti-Italian/anti-European hysteria in this thread is more than in proportion with any anti-American sentiment involved in this case, it far exceeds it.

    I'm not convinced Knox and Sollecito did it, and I'm not convinced that they didn't. Whose opinion should be the deciding factor? I guess the jury's, and that's currently a guilty verdict, with a right of appeal. If the appeal is lost, then Knox should be extradited, like any other convicted murderer.

    If you have an extradition treaty then you have already agreed to abide by the decisions of the court of that country. If you are sceptical of its impartiality or incorruptibility then you need to revoke the treaty. A treaty that one party refuses to honour is really no treaty at all.
    BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. there was not even probable cause she is guilty.

    Most euro nations have refused to honor extradition treaties to send a person back to the USA for a death penalty trial. That often involves AMERICAN nationals who have fled.

    The Italian court system isn't just bad, its a complete joke. Every possible screw up I have ever seen in 24 years of reviewing federal criminal cases was made in the Knox case. Tainted evidence poor investigations, lack of a motive, ignoring obvious more probable suspects etc etc etc



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