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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Taxes like this are an abomination.

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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    By all means continue to trust your political lean without checking. It reinforces what you already believe, so it's convenient. Whatever you do, don't check it out for yourself. Flail? Nobody posting here knows with certainty exactly what Manning's financial circumstances regarding this possibility - the thread offers the real possibility that such might be the case. Since you've decided in advance, why would anybody lift a finger to convince you the possibility exists? If you're convinced it's a lie, maybe you could offer some proof that it is rather than bloviate regarding your presupposition.
    So there's a POSSIBILITY that he MIGHT pay this tax that MIGHT exist.
    Just like there's a POSSIBILITY that I MIGHT become president and that I MIGHT pick you as my VP.

    Derp. Of course it makes sense why you refused to produce any evidence supporting your conspiracy theory.
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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    So there's a POSSIBILITY that he MIGHT pay this tax that MIGHT exist.
    Just like there's a POSSIBILITY that I MIGHT become president and that I MIGHT pick you as my VP.

    Derp. Of course it makes sense why you refused to produce any evidence supporting your conspiracy theory.
    Hell, I never offered to provide any proof. You're the one complaining the nobody has presented you with anything. My point at the outset was that if it's of such great concern to you that you view it as an opportunity to smear all conservatives, then perhaps you should do a little more than simply wait for someone to present something to you. Naturally, you can't be bothered to actually disprove the OP. The tax exists. Manning's liability is in question. I'll leave it at that. Drone on.

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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Hell, I never offered to provide any proof. You're the one complaining the nobody has presented you with anything. My point at the outset was that if it's of such great concern to you that you view it as an opportunity to smear all conservatives, then perhaps you should do a little more than simply wait for someone to present something to you. Naturally, you can't be bothered to actually disprove the OP. The tax exists. Manning's liability is in question. I'll leave it at that. Drone on.
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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The tax already exists. Berty Russell has nothing to do with it. The discussion is revolving around his potential liability, and by extension, the liability of others subject to similar taxes. Somehow you missed those most salient elements in your rush to condemn. Nobody is worried about Manning's ability to cope with such a tax. If you have a counterpoint, you might want to consider offering it. If not, as I said, drone on.

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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Thanks for the explanation, but I was once a CPA, so I know a little bit about taxes. Unfortunately, most of the people that got their panties in a bunch about this do not. I do not quibble with the calculation, only with the implication that he pays more in taxes than he makes. It is completely untrue and misleading.

    The whole issue is about appointment of income amongst the states he worked.... if the calculation shifts income to New Jersey, it is somewhat offset by all of the other states he plays in where, by calculation, he would pay less tax. He pays state tax on the $15M, that is unchanged... its just what state gets to claim what allocation of income (and get the tax thereon). The article is misleading, designed to excite the ignorant as if this is some type of problem or just be a quip of interest for those that do. In either case, its silly as Peyton could care less. I am certain (speculating here) that Manning and most NFL players would be happy to play in the Bowl for gratis.
    No quibbling with the calculations here. I'm not sure of the tax laws of each of the states, I'm mostly going by what is in this thread. Although I am sure there are players that would play in the Super Bowl for nothing, that is really beside the point, isn't it?

    Of course, he does not pay more in taxes than he earns, and they need to use a player that makes that much money, because the lower payed players will pay much less in taxes than Manning will. But it does look like it is true, that in his situation, he could earn less money if they lose the Super Bowl than if he did not make it there at all.
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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It certainly is an option but thank God Peyton and the other atheletes have rejected the right's hysteria-driven aversion to govt.
    Right, a realistic option. Don't think so. The part about the right and what the players think has got to be one of the biggest stretches ever, LOL! Sun might explode tomorrow, too.
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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

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    Right, a realistic option. Don't think so. The part about the right and what the players think has got to be one of the biggest stretches ever, LOL! Sun might explode tomorrow, too.
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    Re: New Jersey Taxes Could Eat Up All Of Peyton Manning's Super Bowl Earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    That's fine. Now do you have some proof that it does exist?
    Did you follow the link I provided? It seems like a silly question that you can easily find the answer too, doesn't it?
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