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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you care what a private company pays its CEO's and how does their pay affect you and your family? No one forced anyone to take a job in the private sector and they knew going in what the pay scale was going to be. All I see from people today is jealousy and making a non issue even more of one.
    Vitriol fueled rants will not garner a productive response.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    The only thing that it's contrary to is our democracy. Republicans seem unaware of that, which is, I would guess, a fatal flaw.

    Government of, by, for the people governed.
    No, it's not and you show an ignorance of history, not to mention the present. And if you believed that last you'd realise the republicans represent America, after all, they're a majority of the People's House, right?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    not by total votes--just gerry-mander
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, it's not and you show an ignorance of history, not to mention the present. And if you believed that last you'd realise the republicans represent America, after all, they're a majority of the People's House, right?
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    It is generally accepted among economists and sociologists that a glass ceiling/escalator poses a problem for females in the jobs market. Just how much, and establishing causality, will be a venue for future research and data analysis.
    Which is why I originally stated I liked the article that was linked. The article didn't deny or suggest that there wasn't a pay gap...it simply suggested that the steadfast use of $0.77 on the dollar is not as clear cut as it's made out to be and the implications made with it's continued use aren't exactly absolute. As you say, research and analysis regarding how much of an impact things like a "glass ceiling" play for it, and finding out what factors correlate with rather than cause the gap, is definitely needed. I liked the link because it basically highlighted how it's a complex situation with numerous factors and a wide range of ways to view it beyond the narrowly focused, but oft repeated, "$0.77" mantra that's used as justification for immediete congressional action.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    not by total votes--just gerry-mander
    Actually, they did garner more votes than Democrats in the 2012 election, if you normalize the state-by-state reporting differences.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    not by total votes--just gerry-mander
    Yes by total votes, because, shocker, we are a union of states which are a collection of representative districts. Gerrymandering works for ALL parties that have the majority in the state. Remember that democracy thing PMZ mentioned?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That's not how it works, but thanks for showing us the latest spin. Where did you get that from? Dailykos?

    If you took any college courses on American Government, get your money back
    show us you got your money's worth from community college. point out for all to see what you insist i got wrong
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    not by total votes--just gerry-mander

    More excuses from someone who continues to promote the failed ideology of liberalism. Fact more people voted for Republicans in 2010 and the People's House remains in Republican hands. You do realize that when someone runs unopposed that the votes aren't totally counted? You want to blame Republican wins o Gerrymandering but Democrat wins as the will of the people. Doubt seriously that the will of the people today supports Obama's economic results as the polls show.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes by total votes
    You are unaware of the total House votes for each party in 2012.
    Color me surprised .
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    More excuses .
    Just the facts--your first two words were as far as a normal person needed to go when reading your ultra-partisan attacks .
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