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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    By 2096, the die was cast. Double holy wars, tax redistribution tax cuts, Greenspan fueling an already over fueled economy, massive bonuses chasing more unqualified home buyers and investors naive enough to expect that Standard and Poor was responsible in labeling home import age backed derivatives,

    The cracking of the foundation for the whole house of cards was audible. Within months of the change in Congressional seats the Great Recession rumbled into town.
    Yet the Conservative principles generated the greatest wealth creation country in the world that you and others want to destroy. You benefited from conservative principles that allowed you to make as much money as you were capable of making and keeping much of it

    You use liberal talking points quite well, trouble is you don't understand the data in those talking points because the data makes you look foolish

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    In an effort to get back on track, lets discuss Obama's committent to American energy, so long as its not fossil fuel.

    It's not just oil and natural gas production that's booming; we're becoming a global leader in solar, too. Every four minutes, another American home or business goes solar; every panel pounded into place by a worker whose job can't be outsourced. Let's continue that progress with a smarter tax policy that stops giving $4 billion a year to fossil fuel industries that don't need it, so that we can invest more in fuels of the future that do.
    Ignoring his usual misconception about not taking money being the same as giving someone money, this steering people away from oil, which employs 200k people, generates trillions of dollars in product, and thus hundreds of billions in taxes, is hardly going to be a job creator, which he claims is his main concern. He even says his energy policy is creating jobs, but how many is it costing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    the debate is settled. Climate change is a fact
    so STFU

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

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    Yet the Conservative principles generated the greatest wealth creation country in the world that you and others want to destroy. You benefited from conservative principles that allowed you to make as much money as you were capable of making and keeping much of it

    You use liberal talking points quite well, trouble is you don't understand the data in those talking points because the data makes you look foolish
    I see that the best that you can do against reality is trash talk.

    Did you ever ask yourself why it's essential for you to deny reality in defense of conservatism?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

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    I see that the best that you can do against reality is trash talk.

    Did you ever ask yourself why it's essential for you to deny reality in defense of conservatism?
    I post data, you post opinions, my data is reality, yours is nothing more than liberalism gone wild

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    In an effort to get back on track, lets discuss Obama's committent to American energy, so long as its not fossil fuel.



    Ignoring his usual misconception about not taking money being the same as giving someone money, this steering people away from oil, which employs 200k people, generates trillions of dollars in product, and thus hundreds of billions in taxes, is hardly going to be a job creator, which he claims is his main concern. He even says his energy policy is creating jobs, but how many is it costing?

    Also



    so STFU
    Accountants call it cost/benefit. All of the costs and benefits have to be included to make good decisions. There is no doubt that there are some of each.

    Those of us who choose to consider all of them in objective analysis have concluded that the lowest cost path forward is to move away from fossil fuels with all deliberate speed. Something that has to be done anyway no matter what good analysis recommends. Our analysis says that sooner is cheaper than later.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    More good news for Democrats, just think of all the family time people are going to have because they have fewer hours on the job. What an economic boost as well since they will have smaller pay checks although FIT will be much less. Happy Days are here again! Love the liberal spin

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

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    More good news for Democrats, just think of all the family time people are going to have because they have fewer hours on the job. What an economic boost as well since they will have smaller pay checks although FIT will be much less. Happy Days are here again! Love the liberal spin
    I'm sure that this is meaningful to someone. But, not me.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Actually, that was my comment originally. The overall topic is basically anything he said. The bigger problem even than the stimulus is the high level of overall spending that was locked in. From 2007-2009 spending when up by 30% and never went back down. So in a way, thats a trillion a year in stimulus, all borrowed. And its both partys fault. Stimulus may have stopped the bleeding (thats debateable, others say it was all the other measures taken prior to Obama by the Fed), but how much damage did it cost long term?
    Not much.

    A recent report by the CBO, "The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2014-2024" - the same report that Republicans have misquoted concerning future job projections - states that although spending was up from 2007-2009, "the federal budget deficit has fallen sharply during the past few years, and it is on a path to decline further this year (FY2014)...with a total est. of $514B (compared to $1.4T in 2009)" In fact, one point the CBO consistently points out is that the deficit will remain below the trillion dollar mark until 2022.

    Another bright spot the CBO points to is that unemployment is expected to decrease to 5.8% by 2017 and go as low as 5.5% by 2024.

    Just a brief FYI for those interested.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Not much.

    A recent report by the CBO, "The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2014-2024" - the same report that Republicans have misquoted concerning future job projections - states that although spending was up from 2007-2009, "the federal budget deficit has fallen sharply during the past few years, and it is on a path to decline further this year (FY2014)...with a total est. of $514B (compared to $1.4T in 2009)" In fact, one point the CBO consistently points out is that the deficit will remain below the trillion dollar mark until 2022.

    Another bright spot the CBO points to is that unemployment is expected to decrease to as low as 5.5% by 2024.

    Just a brief FYI for those interested.
    Gee,thanks for that information, only a 514 trillion dollar deficit in fiscal year 2014. Let's celebrate. Doesn't that mean that 514 trillion will be added to the debt? Doesn't that mean that the debt will continue to exceed our GDP thus be over 100%? You call that a bright spot, I call that putting lipstick on a pig.

    As for unemployment, how many more people have to drop out of the labor force or take on part time jobs to reduce the unemployment rate to 5.5%? I continue to be amazed and how low the standards are for far too many today.

    Please name for me the Obama economic policies that lowered the deficit, lowered the unemployment rate, and stimulates economic growth? What you are seeing is how great the U.S. economy is or at least used to be before Obamanomics

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Not much.

    A recent report by the CBO, "The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2014-2024" - the same report that Republicans have misquoted concerning future job projections - states that although spending was up from 2007-2009, "the federal budget deficit has fallen sharply during the past few years, and it is on a path to decline further this year (FY2014)...with a total est. of $514B (compared to $1.4T in 2009)" In fact, one point the CBO consistently points out is that the deficit will remain below the trillion dollar mark until 2022.

    Another bright spot the CBO points to is that unemployment is expected to decrease to 5.8% by 2017 and go as low as 5.5% by 2024.

    Just a brief FYI for those interested.

    Edits = Red
    I guess you didnt read the WHOLE report.

    T
    he large budget deficits recorded in recent years have
    substantially increased federal debt, and the amount of
    debt relative to the size of the economy is now very
    high by historical standards. CBO estimates that federal
    debt held by the public will equal 74 percent of GDP
    at the end of this year and 79 percent in 2024 (the end
    of the current 10-year projection period). Such large
    and growing federal debt could have serious negative
    consequences, including restraining economic growth
    in the long term,
    giving policymakers less flexibility to
    respond to unexpected challenges, and eventually increasing
    the risk of a fiscal crisis (in which investors would
    demand high interest rates to buy the government’s debt).
    LONG TERM DAMAGE

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