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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Perhaps you could show me where it says that in the constitution.
    The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
    you're welcome
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you're welcome
    What does have to do with this 'power to lead' that you mentioned? I cant find that in your sentence.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    What does have to do with this 'power to lead' that you mentioned? I cant find that in your sentence.
    let the dictionary be your friend:
    Executive | Define Executive at Dictionary.com
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    let the dictionary be your friend:
    Executive | Define Executive at Dictionary.com
    Thats not the constitution. But ill play along. Assuming we accept that a modern web dictionary definition of 'executive' somehow defines the power the POTUS has, 'power to lead' is still not in your dictionary.

    a person or group of persons having administrative or supervisory authority in an organization.
    Thus the power to execute, not to lead. So, try again. You seem to be very confident of your interpretation of the powers of the President, specifically this 'power to lead'. It should be pretty easy for you explain the logic upon which this is based.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Thats not the constitution. But ill play along. Assuming we accept that a modern web dictionary definition of 'executive' somehow defines the power the POTUS has, 'power to lead' is still not in your dictionary.



    Thus the power to execute, not to lead. So, try again. You seem to be very confident of your interpretation of the powers of the President, specifically this 'power to lead'. It should be pretty easy for you explain the logic upon which this is based.

    everyone here who believes that an executive is a follower instead of the leader, please raise your hands (or post it where johnny5 can see)
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    everyone here who believes that an executive is a follower instead of the leader, please raise your hands (or post it where johnny5 can see)
    I can tell you arent interested in an actual debate. Later.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the XO remark was a line in the sand for congress
    work with me, or to the extent i am legally able, i will move things forward myself
    seems transparent to me
    To be fair, given numerous instances of the administrations actions being overruled by the court in a unanimous basis, it would be more accurate to say "work with me, or to the extent I believe I am legally able, I will move things forward myself".

    As we've seen in past decisions, and potentially in the upcoming decision regarding his "recess" appointment, what the President BELIEVES is legal and what is legal doesn't always jive. What's troubling is an administration ran by a "constitutional professor" (whose experience as such was one thing touted as a reason to not worry about his dreadfully lacking resume) is having routine instances of being overruled unanimously by the SCOTUS.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, it does have the power of the purse
    but is shutting down government the best way in which to wield that power
    I don't know, you were just slobbering over one branch of power using it's power in an attempt to strong arm in the name of what they think is right....funny you seem to have issues with it when it doesn't fit your political ideology. Shocker.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    The biggest mistake in a debate:

    Being sarcastic when you are WRONG.

    The Gender Wage Gap Lie [AKA . Feminist writer in super triple liberal Slate sets babbling idiot from Chicago straight]

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    You know that “women make 77 cents to every man’s dollar” line you’ve heard a hundred times? It’s not true.

    The official Bureau of Labor Department statistics show that the median earnings of full-time female workers is 77 percent of the median earnings of full-time male workers. But that is very different than “77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/double...ery_man_s.html

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    The official Bureau of Labor Department statistics show that the median earnings of full-time female workers is 77 percent of the median earnings of full-time male workers. But that is very different than “77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men.

    Gender pay gap: The familiar line that “women make 77 cents to every man’s dollar” simply isn’t accurate.
    Wonderful link. And this actually goes back to my point in another thread about Executive Orders. People enjoy taking a COMPLEX situation/argument/stance and attempting to reduce it to a singular thing while ignoring all the other factors that can be having significant impact.

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