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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    I'll bet that there might be days when you wake up and wish that your politics was supportable by pure, unvarnished truth. No made up data, no misrepresented truth, no spin, no half truths, no dirty politics, just truth, the whole truth, and nothing but.

    But then again, maybe not.

    How much of our debt comes from Bush's holy wars, tax cuts, and recovery from, and revenue lost to, Bush's great recession?

    You're saying zero?
    That information is very easy to find but as a liberal it seems you want it given to you but I know you will ignore it. You have no concept of what the debt is and where it comes from nor what Obama has actually generated. The truth is the numbers are there for you to see.


    Treasury shows the cost of the wars in the 10.6 trillion debt Obama inherited, it is 17.3 trillion today

    Do you honestly believe you keeping more of what you earn in the form of tax cuts is an expense to the govt? explain why we had record tax revenue in 2007 under the Bush tax cuts and why Reagan had a 60%increase in FIT revenue? You simply buy what you are told and ignore reality. The Treasury Data is there for you to see

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

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    Do you have the same expectations and low standards when it comes to Republicans? Where were you when Bush inherited the Clinton recession and had 9/11 yet still had a 4.5 trillion increase in GDP and 9 million jobs prior to 2008? You want to judge Bush based upon 2008/2009 while ignoring the previous 7 years and then want to give Obama a pass for the past five years. You Obama supporters really just aren't worth it.
    The recession Bush inherited was nothing compared to the recession Obama inherited. Don't be so dishonest.

    And you're basically constructing a series of strawmen, attacking things that neither I nor PMZ has said. And we're not worth YOUR time? Pfffft.

    Learn to argue honestly, and maybe we'll talk. I'm not holding my breath.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    What ended in June 2009 was the decline of GDP.
    The recession ended in June 2009, what caused that?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    The interest rates are fixed for a particular bond. If interest rates go up, only bonds issued after that are affected.
    That's what i thought. Thanks
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you have the same expectations and low standards when it comes to Republicans? Where were you when Bush inherited the Clinton recession and had 9/11 yet still had a 4.5 trillion increase in GDP and 9 million jobs prior to 2008? You want to judge Bush based upon 2008/2009 while ignoring the previous 7 years and then want to give Obama a pass for the past five years. You Obama supporters really just aren't worth it.
    He inherited 9/11????

    What Bush inherited was the return to normalcy following the dot com boom.

    What Obama inherited was the worst global economic disaster since the Great Depression.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The recession Bush inherited was nothing compared to the recession Obama inherited. Don't be so dishonest.

    And you're basically constructing a series of strawmen, attacking things that neither I nor PMZ has said. And we're not worth YOUR time? Pfffft.

    Learn to argue honestly, and maybe we'll talk. I'm not holding my breath.
    Never said it was, but it was a recession and cost the treasury money and dollars. 9/11 cost the Treasury over a trillion dollars and is included in the 10.6 trillion debt Obama inherited.

    All Presidents inherit policies and data that aren't particularly great for the incoming President. A good leader takes the hand they are dealt and plays it better than Obama who lacks leadership skills.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    He inherited 9/11????

    What Bush inherited was the return to normalcy following the dot com boom.

    What Obama inherited was the worst global economic disaster since the Great Depression.

    You seem to have survived it and if it were as bad as you claim you would have suffered too. You didn't, nor did I, nor did the majority in this country due to record low interest rates and low inflation.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The recession ended in June 2009, what caused that?
    What happened in June of 2009 was the GDP reduction that was called the Great Recession hit it's lowest point.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    What happened in June of 2009 was the GDP reduction that was called the Great Recession hit it's lowest point.
    Look nothing anyone says or no data posted is going to change your mind. You and the 43% that support Obama certainly deserve each other.. I feel bad for someone your age being so poorly informed

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem to have survived it and if it were as bad as you claim you would have suffered too. You didn't, nor did I, nor did the majority in this country due to record low interest rates and low inflation.
    I was retired. I'm as recession proof as anyone in the country. Tell the auto workers whose jobs Obama saved that the Great Recession was not. Tell Wall St. Tell the 10% who were unemployed that the Great Recession was not. Tell Europe that the Great Recession was not.

    Your standard seems to be that if you are ok, everything is fine. That's exactly why conservatives will become unelectable.

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