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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    In a word, crap. You couldn't run a 7/11.
    Well, it has been fun, I see no more reason to deal with you and your bs. Adios

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

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    How does a recovery hurt millions?
    Ask those unemployed/under employed/discouraged and full time parttime workers who want a full time job. Worst economic recovery on record

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    We're talking more about the ideology. The purpose of the Presidency is to execute the laws that congress makes and represent the country in foreign affairs. Not to make policy. Hes redefining the balance of power.
    Au contraire... I'm not sure what country you have been living in or what you have been studying, but the Imperial Presidency has been the dominate view of the US Presidency for the past 100 years. Presidential power has been growing and growing through FDR, Nixon, Reagan and Bush, Jr.

    The Imperial Presidency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Obama actually represents a retreat from that... not of his doing, its just congress has pretty much neutralized him.

    State of the Union: platitudes of a post-imperial presidency | Simon Tisdall | Comment is free | theguardian.com

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    I did. No data.
    I don't know what to tell you. I went back and click on the link which brought up the Gallup survey, then went into number one where it was talking about immigration, it said: Immigration is a relatively low-priority issue for Americans. The low-priority issue was underlined and I clicked on it and it brought up all the issues and the percentages. Once you click on the link, any words underlined will get you to a different portion or link where gallup shows its stats.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know Pol. Immigration is sort of a side issue that comes to the forefront when other issues die down. As for buying our treasury bonds, China is still doing so but at a slower pace. The low interest rate on them really doesn't make them all that attractive or so I have been told. But to make them more attractive, interest rates must go up and thus so too will the payments on the interest. I is a dang if you do and a dang if you don't. But I am not financial guru, so that question would be best answered by others.
    The interest rates are fixed for a particular bond. If interest rates go up, only bonds issued after that are affected.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion=. By what standards did the stimulus work? What reputable agency captures saved jobs? I understand you want to believe this but the question is why do you ignore the data?
    What data?

    What I don't ignore is the opinion of actual economists who say that without the stimulus, the economy would have gone into full-blown depression. Stimulus is not intended to fix everything overnight. Stimulus is intended to prevent the economy from getting worse. Which, when it was implemented, it accomplished.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion=. By what standards did the stimulus work? What reputable agency captures saved jobs? I understand you want to believe this but the question is why do you ignore the data?
    85% of the best and brightest US economists, you know, the experts, as well as the CBO said it worked. Plus, the third article I posted outlines and links 9 studies done on the subject.

    Poll Results | IGM Forum
    Congressional Budget Office defends stimulus - The Washington Post
    Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject - The Washington Post
    Economists agree: Stimulus created nearly 3 million jobs - USATODAY.com

    There is some evidence. What do you have to the contrary?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What data?

    What I don't ignore is the opinion of actual economists who say that without the stimulus, the economy would have gone into full-blown depression. Stimulus is not intended to fix everything overnight. Stimulus is intended to prevent the economy from getting worse. Which, when it was implemented, it accomplished.
    There is no way of knowing what the economy would have been like without the stimulus but we do know what the economy is like with the stimulus and except for the 43% most of who have no idea who is even in office they continue to buy rhetoric and ignore actual data and results. Still waiting for the verifiable site that captures saved jobs? The economy came out of recession in June 2009,. When did those shovels arrive for the shovel ready jobs?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is no way of knowing what the economy would have been like without the stimulus but we do know what the economy is like with the stimulus and except for the 43% most of who have no idea who is even in office they continue to buy rhetoric and ignore actual data and results. Still waiting for the verifiable site that captures saved jobs? The economy came out of recession in June 2009,. When did those shovels arrive for the shovel ready jobs?
    So because the recovery has been slow, then the stimulus didn't work? Is that what you're claiming? It's hard to tell, since the first 2/3 of that post is word salad.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    85% of the best and brightest US economists, you know, the experts, as well as the CBO said it worked. Plus, the third article I posted outlines and links 9 studies done on the subject.

    Poll Results | IGM Forum
    Congressional Budget Office defends stimulus - The Washington Post
    Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject - The Washington Post
    Economists agree: Stimulus created nearly 3 million jobs - USATODAY.com

    There is some evidence. What do you have to the contrary?
    Well there you have it, we are living in great economic times with excellent economic results. The BEA,BLS, and Treasury numbers lie. Please post for me the location that captures saved jobs? States weren't even given the opportunity to save their own state jobs but you willing give Obama credit. Such low standards you have

    The Five Biggest Failures From President Obama's Stimulus Law - US News

    How the $800B stimulus failed | New York Post

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