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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    "And when ninety-eight percent of our exporters are small businesses, new trade partnerships with Europe and the Asia-Pacific will help them create more jobs."

    What a crock of ****. It's that kind of thing that is killing jobs in the USA.

    "Every four minutes, another American home or business goes solar; every panel pounded into place by a worker whose job can't be outsourced."

    Solar Panels made in China.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    "And when ninety-eight percent of our exporters are small businesses, new trade partnerships with Europe and the Asia-Pacific will help them create more jobs."

    What a crock of ****. It's that kind of thing that is killing jobs in the USA.

    "Every four minutes, another American home or business goes solar; every panel pounded into place by a worker whose job can't be outsourced."

    Solar Panels made in China.
    From http://www.trade.gov/cs/factsheet.asp

    "Small and medium-sized companies account for 98 percent of U.S. exporters, but represent less than one-third of the known export value of U.S. goodsí exports. (In 2010, there were over 293,000 identified U.S. exporters (269,269 of which were small or medium-sized))."

    Quite a difference from what was reported in the note that you were responding to.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    If there is going to be an immediate future resurgence of the GOP, they certainly did their best to hide it at their response to the state of the union. Do you think that that was strategy?
    There is absolutely no justification for continued democrat rule in the Senate and WH as the results show so the best you can do is attack the House based upon your own ignorance of economic data and results.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is absolutely no justification for continued democrat rule in the Senate and WH as the results show so the best you can do is attack the House based upon your own ignorance of economic data and results.
    Remember 2009. Consider today. Nothing but up.

    Remember 2000. Recall 2009. Nothing but down.

    Mere happenstance?

    Not likely.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    Remember 2009. Consider today. Nothing but up.

    Remember 2000. Recall 2009. Nothing but down.

    Mere happenstance?

    Not likely.
    Interesting how the data doesn't support your claims especially the data today 5 years after the end of the recession. Post data, not opinions and further realize where the data comes from. What effect did the Democrat Controlled Congress have on the economic results in 2007-2009?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Again, we're talking about the IDEOLOGICAL idea of saying that since congress wont give the President what he wants, he'll do it anyway. Was that the argument used by your examples? I dont recall Bush ever saying that.
    So, let me get this straight: You're pissed that the President of the United States who happens to be a Democrat puffed out his chest and challenged a Congress filled with ideologically obstructive Republicans to do their job?

    C'mon, man! Give me a break.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    So, let me get this straight: You're pissed that the President of the United States who happens to be a Democrat puffed out his chest and challenged a Congress filled with ideologically obstructive Republicans to do their job?

    C'mon, man! Give me a break.
    Oh, good Lord, the absolute ignorance of civics here is staggering. A house filled with Obstructive Republicans? What do you call Reid and the Senate? What do you call "My way or the highway" Obama? You really have been brainwashed. Do you ever place blame on Democrats for anything?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I really wish folks would stop acting as if this is something new for a sitting President. Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and GW Bush all used their executive power to streeeeeeeetch their authority somewhat. Some did it within the letter of the law (those who weren't impeached, their executive over-reach wasn't reeled in by the SCOUS or were Congress didn't rewriting specific laws) or they got handed their ass.

    Jackson: Indians/land rights - SCOUS
    Truman: Industrial seizure - SCOUS
    Nixon: civil liberty violations - impeached
    Regan: Iran/Contra - Congressional Hearings
    Clinton: excessive use of executive privilege - impeached
    GW Bush: civil liberty violations - revised law by Congress

    I'm sure the SCOUS will rule against Pres. Obama's recess appointments, but that aside if Congress truly believed he was over-stepping his bounds I'm pretty sure the Spkr Boehnor would be doing more than just making idle rhetorical arguments. So, until Congress acts or the SCOUS rules against the alleged unconstitutional actions conducted by President Obama, can we stop acting like the President of the United States cannot use the power of his office to execute policy within his legal authority?
    This is interesting: Bush Pushes Agenda Without Congress (from 2007) Bush pushes agenda without Congress - politics | NBC News

    From the article:
    Outgoing presidents often unleash a flurry of executive orders and regulations in a last-minute attempt to leave their mark on U.S. policy. Frustrated by Congressí inability or unwillingness to pass the presidentís agenda, the administration already is taking steps to do it through executive action....

    Bush said it was an example of acting within the boundaries of existing law when Congress failed to act.


    sound familiar??
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    This is interesting: Bush Pushes Agenda Without Congress (from 2007) Bush pushes agenda without Congress - politics | NBC News

    From the article:
    Outgoing presidents often unleash a flurry of executive orders and regulations in a last-minute attempt to leave their mark on U.S. policy. Frustrated by Congress’ inability or unwillingness to pass the president’s agenda, the administration already is taking steps to do it through executive action....

    Bush said it was an example of acting within the boundaries of existing law when Congress failed to act.


    sound familiar??
    Did you support what you claim Bush did?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Did you support what you claim Bush did?
    I'm not making any claim. I am just sharing buzz that was out there about him and every other President when they were in office and used EOs. People are claiming the EO's originated with Obama, which is inaccurate. They are also claiming that he is abusing them, which is a claim leveled against every other President that used them.

    Point being, maybe the problem is EO's and not this President.
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