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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    I have way more faith in democracy than your media bred opinions.
    You don't know my opinions. You didn't address anything I posted, you just attacked conservatives with some wacky ass brush of demented ignorance.


    Let me ask you three questions:

    Are Conservatives for No Government, Limited Scope Government or Big Government?

    Are Conservatives Racist?

    Are Conservatives just Rich White Guys supported by fools that don't see the real evil in the system?
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You don't know my opinions. You didn't address anything I posted, you just attacked conservatives with some wacky ass brush of demented ignorance.


    Let me ask you three questions:

    Are Conservatives for No Government, Limited Scope Government or Big Government?

    Are Conservatives Racist?

    Are Conservatives just Rich White Guys supported by fools that don't see the real evil in the system?
    Whose opinions have you been posting?

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    Whose opinions have you been posting?
    Okay, well this is enough thread derailment for me, you can't answer the questions my job is done, /wave
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Okay, well this is enough thread derailment for me, you can't answer the questions my job is done, /wave
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And since it favors the GOP by a wide margin at this present moment of awareness in time, no problem right ?
    I don't have a huge issue with Gerry Mandering in general, as it's long been a part of our politics and I don't know of many realistic ways to actually deal with the situation better. So at the moment it's something similar to the SCOTUS, where it's a big, long lasting bonus for winning elections at random times. I didn't have an issue when I was living down in one of the worst democratically gerrymandered districts in Virginia, and I don't really care about it now. It has nothing to do with who it favors over all currently...though the same accusation you're levying here could be turned back around on you and suggested you only have an issue with it because it favors the GOP currently.

    None of which addresses the fact that you laughably keep avoiding answering a pretty straight forward question by saying two words that don't really answer it and are rather non-sensical given their existence for pretty much the entire existence of the House.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    None of which addresses the fact that you laughably keep avoiding answering a pretty straight forward question by saying two words that don't really answer it and are rather non-sensical given their existence for pretty much the entire existence of the House.

    Are you pleased with the set-up guaranteeing little turnover in the current House.

    Since I'm partisan but moderate upon coming to dp, my only hope is Mr. Boehner.

    Though I must say Mr. Ryan is making sensible noises coming out of this "retreat" in Maryland.

    Let's hope the GOP can come to an agreement with themselves so the Nation can move forward .
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Are you pleased with the set-up guaranteeing little turnover in the current House.
    I'm indifferent to it. Regardless of Gerry Mandering, which is a LONG standing process that has impacted EVERY house election so whining about it is rather silly in my mind, ultimately it'll come down to the votes of the people. If they're not happy with their representatives, they'll vote them out. If they're happy with them, they'll stay.

    I do hope the Republicans keep control after 2014, and I believe they will, because in general I agree with their agenda far more than I agree with the agenda of the Democrats in the house, but I don't really care if there's turnover, or if some are primaries out, or anything else of the sort.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't have a huge issue with Gerry Mandering in general, as it's long been a part of our politics and I don't know of many realistic ways to actually deal with the situation better.
    There is a "Commission" method that is just beginning to move through the states, such as California.
    As you would surmise, I would want all states to use the same, fair, commission technique, instead of tainted state's rights.
    So at the moment it's something similar to the SCOTUS, where it's a big, long lasting bonus for winning elections at random times.
    Do you support a SCOTUS justice who has never spoken during deliberations.
    I favor replacing said justice with one that the GOP settles on.
    I didn't have an issue when I was living down in one of the worst democratically gerrymandered districts in Virginia, and I don't really care about it now. It has nothing to do with who it favors over all currently
    Our system does make a difference overall.
    There are 30 minority/majority districts.
    Of the other 405, 234 are GOP.
    The DEM m/M plurality of only 30 seats had one-half million more total votes than the the 234-171 GOP plurality,
    with a 2-to-1 edge in individual states that are GMed for the GOP.
    though the same accusation you're levying here could be turned back around on you and suggested you only have an issue with it because it favors the GOP currently.
    I agree.
    Here in Illinois, we really ****ed the GOP, putting two sitting GOP Reps in the same C.D. and stuff.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Those Republicans you speak of were Teddy Roosevelt's progress--ives that today's conservatives completely thrash, worse than RINOs.
    And Teddy would have been no fan of the current crop that call themselves progressives either, so?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    But they sure mastered the concept quickly in the 1860's didn't they?
    Actually, no they didn't. The democrats had about a hundred year head start in using it to their benefit.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So you supported those Progress--ives then!
    Yeah, I kinda get a chuckle out of TR, I laugh at the way he defied congress, fought the sugar trust and bowled in the White House (sans bowling lanes). But I doubt highly you would have enjoyed actually living under his presidency any more than I would have.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Always an insult at the end with you.
    Now that you've been completely refuted in this post, let's just "Let It Be" for another evening, unless you can stop insulting.
    I always want to hear about Oregon .
    Statement of fact, not an insult unless you think it applies.

    You've refuted nothing and shown you don't know much about TR to boot.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So your opinion is that the GOP House shutdown the govt. and Obama along with the Senate had nothing to do with it? Have you ever taken a civics class?
    Just ignore him. He isn't adding anything to this thread.

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