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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    Any body who pays the least bit of attention to the news knows that what's changed is the conservative infestation of the GOP all doing their Rush Limbaugh impressions. The GOP knows it too and are struggling with finding the cure that costs them the fewest votes.
    Anyone who has ever taken a civics class knows that your opinions aren't fact and the facts are Obama and the Senate shutdown the govt. not the House. The House passed legislation that the Senate and President refused to see, that is what shutdown the govt

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    Doesn't make sense. I agree that businesses operate on the guiding principle of making money. Related to that, they pay employees the least amount they can get away with and still retain that employee.( that btw , is the guiding principle behinde he yankess paying Tanka 215 million- that is the LEAST amount thay thought they could offer and be assured of signing him). But if this is THE guiding princple why would they pay men more than women, unless you are contradicting yourself and claiming sexism is actually the overriding principle.
    Women have been taught that because of babies they are worth less. It's traditional. Of course business will, in time, correct this thanks to the actions of many female CEOs. The government has a role in the rate of change. Accepting that role will gain democrats and cost Republicans votes.

    That's called democracy. Something many Republicans reject.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Bingo Z.

    What has made civilized nations work, and America stand so far is that we are a nation of laws. If the house and senate put together a law, the President signs it, thus is it the "law of the land". The SCOTUS can shoot the law down if it is not Constitutional. After that, that is it, it is THE LAW.

    Let's play this out, the House and Senate push through a law stating that all people must wear Purple on Tuesdays, but may not wear Purple any other day, the President signs this into law, and just a step further let's say SCOTUS didn't shoot it down. Thus every Tuesday, we all wear Purple! But only on Tuesdays. That's it folks. End of story. Where in the powers of the Constitution does the President have the right to say "This, is the law of the land, except in Minnesota! You can wear purple on Sundays and game day Thursdays! (That's a Vikings reference for those that aren't Vikings fans, probably means most of you missed it ;P ) Oh and the Purple Union can wear Purple when they gather, because I granted them a waiver!" He doesn't have that power. He cannot do it. The law itself must be changed by the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. Otherwise, the Next President can waltz in and sign an EO saying "No one can wear purple! It's Blue, everyone has to wear Blue on Tuesdays, except Dallas fans, they can wear it on gamedays!" What's to stop such idiocy?

    Nothing. And that is the great danger the Executive Order has always held, why previous uses are generally clarifying, or adding a rule not completely circumventing the LAW as written. Thus the amount, isn't as serious as the course taken. Granted, I'm no fan of Obama, but I believe, and many left, right and middle are very concerned that he's taking the Office of the President and trying to play King. That's bad enough, but what about the next "King"? All of you saying EO's are good! now, will be gnashing your teeth if President Palin said "Abortion is bad, I'm signing this here EO outlawing Abortion after 6 weeks".

    That's the path of anarchy, the destruction of the very fabric of Law that keeps society from flying apart. We cannot allow this to continue, but it is, we're watching national suicide in slow motion!
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    We have the 17th amendment to do away with Republicans gerry-mandering the Senate before the age of Progress--ives starting in 1900.
    Huh? The republican party didn't exist when gerrymandering was coined and they had only existed for 40 years by the time the 17th was being brought to convention. And considering there was significant republican support of the amendment (wouldn't have passed without it), shows your hyperpartisanship and lack of knowledge on the issue.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    Women have been taught that because of babies they are worth less. It's traditional. Of course business will, in time, correct this thanks to the actions of many female CEOs. The government has a role in the rate of change. Accepting that role will gain democrats and cost Republicans votes.

    That's called democracy. Something many Republicans reject.
    It's called selling pabulum to low information voters ; something at which Democrats excel.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Those Republicans you speak of were Teddy Roosevelt's progress--ives that today's conservatives completely thrash, worse than RINOs.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The republican party didn't exist when gerrymandering was coined
    But they sure mastered the concept quickly in the 1860's didn't they?
    and they had only existed for 40 years by the time the 17th was being brought to convention.
    And considering there was significant republican support of the amendment
    So you supported those Progress--ives then!
    shows your hyperpartisanship and lack of knowledge on the issue.
    Always an insult at the end with you.
    Now that you've been completely refuted in this post, let's just "Let It Be" for another evening, unless you can stop insulting.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    That's called democracy. Something many Republicans reject.
    I'm surprised he didn't reject democracy, since the rightie "constitutionalists" say we're a republic, not a democracy.
    Guess they forgot that word used for the first party, Democratic-Republicans .
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Bingo Z.

    What has made civilized nations work, and America stand so far is that we are a nation of laws. If the house and senate put together a law, the President signs it, thus is it the "law of the land". The SCOTUS can shoot the law down if it is not Constitutional. After that, that is it, it is THE LAW.

    Let's play this out, the House and Senate push through a law stating that all people must wear Purple on Tuesdays, but may not wear Purple any other day, the President signs this into law, and just a step further let's say SCOTUS didn't shoot it down. Thus every Tuesday, we all wear Purple! But only on Tuesdays. That's it folks. End of story. Where in the powers of the Constitution does the President have the right to say "This, is the law of the land, except in Minnesota! You can wear purple on Sundays and game day Thursdays! (That's a Vikings reference for those that aren't Vikings fans, probably means most of you missed it ;P ) Oh and the Purple Union can wear Purple when they gather, because I granted them a waiver!" He doesn't have that power. He cannot do it. The law itself must be changed by the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. Otherwise, the Next President can waltz in and sign an EO saying "No one can wear purple! It's Blue, everyone has to wear Blue on Tuesdays, except Dallas fans, they can wear it on gamedays!" What's to stop such idiocy?

    Nothing. And that is the great danger the Executive Order has always held, why previous uses are generally clarifying, or adding a rule not completely circumventing the LAW as written. Thus the amount, isn't as serious as the course taken. Granted, I'm no fan of Obama, but I believe, and many left, right and middle are very concerned that he's taking the Office of the President and trying to play King. That's bad enough, but what about the next "King"? All of you saying EO's are good! now, will be gnashing your teeth if President Palin said "Abortion is bad, I'm signing this here EO outlawing Abortion after 6 weeks".

    That's the path of anarchy, the destruction of the very fabric of Law that keeps society from flying apart. We cannot allow this to continue, but it is, we're watching national suicide in slow motion!
    I'm pretty sure that what will stop this idiocy is democracy holding the GOP accountable for failure to govern.

    Conservative extremists, who have been taught that government is corrupt, and we don't need it anymore, by a few uber wealthy who love money more than country, have rendered their Republican puppets paralyzed. They can no longer govern. They are no longer statesmen. It's their way or the highway.

    That's simply unacceptable performance to a majority of Americans.

    They will be voted out. We will recover. Media driven conservative fanaticism will go the way of leisure suits. It will be as dark a chapter in our history as the Middle Ages were in human history.

    Only then will the recovery of the Republican Party begin.

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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    I'm pretty sure that what will stop this idiocy is democracy holding the GOP accountable for failure to govern.
    Dude, do you think for yourself or do you get your talking points from MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    Conservative extremists, who have been taught that government is corrupt, and we don't need it anymore, by a few uber wealthy who love money more than country, have rendered their Republican puppets paralyzed. They can no longer govern. They are no longer statesmen. It's their way or the highway.
    You really have no idea what Conservatives stand for or believe, you just mouth breath bull**** across the screen and hit enter then move on to the next thread/post you decide requires your brilliant regurgitation of hate.

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    That's simply unacceptable performance to a majority of Americans.
    You wouldn't know a majority of American's if they walked across your lawn.

    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    They will be voted out. We will recover. Media driven conservative fanaticism will go the way of leisure suits. It will be as dark a chapter in our history as the Middle Ages were in human history.
    What planet do you live on? It's not earth. Maybe you live in NYC? That would explain a lot...
    Quote Originally Posted by PMZ View Post
    Only then will the recovery of the Republican Party begin.
    The ONLY GOP you would like is a minority GOP run by Olympia Snowe and Chaired by Arlen specter.
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    Re: Transcript: Obama's State Of The Union Address 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Dude, do you think for yourself or do you get your talking points from MSNBC?


    You really have no idea what Conservatives stand for or believe, you just mouth breath bull**** across the screen and hit enter then move on to the next thread/post you decide requires your brilliant regurgitation of hate.


    You wouldn't know a majority of American's if they walked across your lawn.


    What planet do you live on? It's not earth. Maybe you live in NYC? That would explain a lot...

    The ONLY GOP you would like is a minority GOP run by Olympia Snowe and Chaired by Arlen specter.
    I have way more faith in democracy than your media bred opinions.

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