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    Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    WASHINGTON Congressional negotiators completed work on a new five-year $500 billion farm bill Monday, bringing closer to an end more than two years of struggles over the much-delayed legislation.

    The farm bill would save an estimated $24 billion over 10 years, with about a third of the spending cuts coming from the popular food stamp program. The proposed legislation also would mark the end of $5 billion in annual direct payments, increase the number of crop insurance programs available to farmers and require farmers to follow conservation compliance measures to receive subsidies.

    The 41 House and Senate lawmakers on the conference committee completed the legislation Monday, with the bill expected to advance to a vote in the full House Wednesday. The Senate could act as soon as next week. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said Monday that the farm bill is one of his top priorities.

    Craig Hill, president of the Iowa Farm Bureau, said a farm bill is "desperately needed" to provide a stable source of funding for nutrition programs and give agriculture producers a strong

    safety net while allowing them to more easily make long-term plans.


    Read more @: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/01/27/farm-bill-deal/4947383/

    Now im glad they finally passed a bill on this much needed issue i however disagree with cutting SNAP. So pretty much a two edged sword.


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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Why should the federal government be in the business of subsidizing agriculture at all?
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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Why should the federal government be in the business of subsidizing agriculture at all?
    Fundamentally needed to prop up the US farm industry and protect it from foreign competition. However i do believe they need reform, not to be axed. I think we are subsidizing the wrong things. Instead of subsizing things that mostly lead to unhealthy and junk foods we need to subsize the other foods that are more healthy.


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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Why should the federal government be in the business of subsidizing agriculture at all?
    Not to mention, of course, that they legally can't be. But when has that stopped them before?

    Ugh. We were better off with this nonsense expired.

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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Fundamentally needed to prop up the US farm industry and protect it from foreign competition. However i do believe they need reform, not to be axed. I think we are subsidizing the wrong things. Instead of subsizing things that mostly lead to unhealthy and junk foods we need to subsize the other foods that are more healthy.
    We're subsidizing both inefficient agriculture through the direct farm bill, and junk food through hte food stamp program.

    If we're going to subsidize at all, it should be through buying up surplus product and putting it in warehouses where the poor can come to get needed food.
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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We're subsidizing both inefficient agriculture through the direct farm bill, and junk food through hte food stamp program.

    If we're going to subsidize at all, it should be through buying up surplus product and putting it in warehouses where the poor can come to get needed food.
    We would have to make a hell of a lot more food banks then which would be very expensive and also not all the poor leave within realistic distance to get to these food banks.


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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Fundamentally needed to prop up the US farm industry and protect it from foreign competition. However i do believe they need reform, not to be axed. I think we are subsidizing the wrong things. Instead of subsizing things that mostly lead to unhealthy and junk foods we need to subsize the other foods that are more healthy.
    Which has an enormously distorting effect in one of the most interconnected markets on the planet: the agricultural market. Which in turn promotes food insecurity in the developing world on any number of different levels not limited to pricing developing countries out of the market, making FTA's with these countries that would allow for increased cereals importation, and promoting terrible environmental and land use decisions by incentivizing them (corn subsidies leading to biofuels for example). The US farm industry doesn't need propping up anymore than the French or British farming industry needs propping up. The only people who need propping up are small and moderate sized farmers who are increasingly economically noncompetitive and responsible for a smaller and smaller share of production.

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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    We would have to make a hell of a lot more food banks then which would be very expensive and also not all the poor leave within realistic distance to get to these food banks.
    It wouldn't be as expensive as what we have now. Moreover, food stamp recipients would have good, nutritious food, not junk food and not the ability to trade food stamps for cash.
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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Why should the federal government be in the business of subsidizing agriculture at all?
    I think its a good policy to ensure that basic grains and other items needed by and for everyone are kept a bit of control to ensure that there's never a threat to the supply or price that would mean people going hungry, everything else should be left to the market though. You know so for example a price of a gallon of milk may rocket through the roof as people are talking about but you'll always be able to buy flour or rice at low costs that don't change frequently or greatly.

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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It wouldn't be as expensive as what we have now. Moreover, food stamp recipients would have good, nutritious food, not junk food and not the ability to trade food stamps for cash.
    We would then have to subsidize different types of foods that are healthier.


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