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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The two are actually related. Farm Subsides, when originally created were a good thing. Maybe not in strict adherence to what a government should do, but a good thing. The were meant to stabilize price fluctuations and keep food affordable while at the same time stopping farmers from going broke.

    In the 80 or so years since their inception, God only knows what politicians have filed away under that heading. Are they needed today? Probably not, but hey, everyone likes cheap bread, milk and cheese.
    That's the problem with government subsidies. They start out with good intentions, some even start out solving problems. Then, the lobbyists get their industries subsidized by crossing the right palms, and the first thing you know we have a giveaway of tax dollars that serves no one but the employers of the lobbyists.
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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    'The farm bill would save an estimated $24 billion over 10 years, with about a third of the spending cuts coming from the popular food stamp program. The proposed legislation also would mark the end of $5 billion in annual direct payments, increase the number of crop insurance programs available to farmers and require farmers to follow conservation compliance measures to receive subsidies.'

    1) I am SO COMPLETELY sick of this childish, nonsensical 'saved over 10 years' crap. It's total nonsense. Just say it will save $x billion this/next year and stop treating the American people like they are retarded.

    2) I am actually against cutting food stamps. With the economy sucking or at least stagnating for most people who are not rich, lots of talk about 'income inequality' and even Obama seeming to play the 'class card'...now is not a good time to be depriving hungry Americans of food.
    I am neither dem nor rep - but it seems asinine that the rep's can't wait to save a tiny fraction of the budget by cutting food stamps to poor Americans...but they wouldn't cut a penny from the defense budget unless you put a gun to their heads. Political idiots.
    This is really going to go down big at election time...not.

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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The two are actually related. Farm Subsides, when originally created were a good thing. Maybe not in strict adherence to what a government should do, but a good thing. The were meant to stabilize price fluctuations and keep food affordable while at the same time stopping farmers from going broke.

    In the 80 or so years since their inception, God only knows what politicians have filed away under that heading. Are they needed today? Probably not, but hey, everyone likes cheap bread, milk and cheese.
    If milk and cheese are being subsidized by taxpayers, how are they cheap?

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    Re: Lawmakers reach deal on farm bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    1) I am SO COMPLETELY sick of this childish, nonsensical 'saved over 10 years' crap. It's total nonsense. Just say it will save $x billion this/next year and stop treating the American people like they are retarded.
    Amen to that.
    We heard all of the "savings" that were proposed during the campaign, "save $400 billion" over ten years. Big deal. Take 40 billion a year out of a trillion dollar deficit. Big whoop.

    it's like the pols don't think the voters understand math. Maybe they're right.
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