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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Your typical liberal arts degree qualifies you to be...unemployed. We have a family friend who earned his PhD in Midievil Literature. That qualifies him to be either a professor of Midievil Lit (and you would be SHOCKED at just how few of those positions there are) or a night supervisor on a loading dock at a WalMart regional center. And while THEY may not have run up that debt, SOMEONE had to pay for it.

    The point is...you cant just get a degree in a field you like and expect that to translate into a career. Granted....hell...you can take advanced classes in Beyonce now...but that still leaves you in debt and unemployed. Times change. The job market changes. If you arent following market trends and preparing for a future you are dying.
    All that is true, and moreover, you'd better guess right when predicting what is going to be the in demand skills in another four or five years. Guess wrong, and you wind up in one of those wonderful Walmart stocking positions.

    And, yes, the general BA in liberal arts is certain to be a poor bet.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or when can those living with less money learn to be happy in other areas rather than resenting the rich?

    Why This Millennial Quit His 6-Figure Job And Gave Away Most Of His Possessions - Yahoo Finance Canada
    Why is it always the poor vs the rich and the rich vs the poor.
    I have known some very decent rich people and very decent poor people.
    I have known some very rotten rich people and very rotten poor people.

    But with that said I think the thing that bothers me the most about some rich people is the continous pity parade. Perhaps they just don't realize they are rich. As the old saying goes how a goldfish grows to the size of their bowl.

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

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    All that is true, and moreover, you'd better guess right when predicting what is going to be the in demand skills in another four or five years. Guess wrong, and you wind up in one of those wonderful Walmart stocking positions.

    And, yes, the general BA in liberal arts is certain to be a poor bet.
    I agree...but its not really a guessing game. There is no real secret about what the emerging technologies and viable future career fields are. If you are going to college and havent at least considered that...you will probably end up unemployed with a mountain of debt. Obama mentioned tech and trade careers and he really does have a rock solid point there. Not everyone has to go to college to become successful. Not everyone SHOULD go to college...certainly not people that are using it as a place to hang out while they figure out what they want to be when they grow up.

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

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    I agree...but its not really a guessing game. There is no real secret about what the emerging technologies and viable future career fields are. If you are going to college and havent at least considered that...you will probably end up unemployed with a mountain of debt. Obama mentioned tech and trade careers and he really does have a rock solid point there. Not everyone has to go to college to become successful. Not everyone SHOULD go to college...certainly not people that are using it as a place to hang out while they figure out what they want to be when they grow up.
    No, not everyone should go to college, that's for sure, and yes, technology is the way to go, but what technology? It's likely that the jobs ten or so years from now will be based on technology that doesn't even exist yet. Technology is changing at the pace of a geometric progression. Training has to be ongoing, and it is expensive.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, not everyone should go to college, that's for sure, and yes, technology is the way to go, but what technology? It's likely that the jobs ten or so years from now will be based on technology that doesn't even exist yet. Technology is changing at the pace of a geometric progression. Training has to be ongoing, and it is expensive.
    True enough...and thats kinda the point. You have to seeka degree in a marketable field with an eye on emerging technologies. Just about any 4 year degree with the word 'engineer' in the title will be one that can be adapted...provided that you stay on top of the markets. IT design and engineer. Energy, robototics, materials processing, bio...all will sustain you provided you dont become complacent. The medical/nursing field and especially psych nursing will continue to grow. Corrections and law enforcement...there will ALWAYS be a need. Marketing...a good marketer is worth their weight in gold to a developing company. A little bit of research goes a long way...especially when it is your future you are talking about. I get that some want to go to school...be an english lit major, and be the next great novelist. Saaaaaweeeeeeeet. But...the odds of that happening are very limited. So...go to school, become a petrochem engineer,and write in your spare time. One starts at about 100k while the other starts with an application for Burger King.

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

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    True enough...and thats kinda the point. You have to seeka degree in a marketable field with an eye on emerging technologies. Just about any 4 year degree with the word 'engineer' in the title will be one that can be adapted...provided that you stay on top of the markets. IT design and engineer. Energy, robototics, materials processing, bio...all will sustain you provided you dont become complacent. The medical/nursing field and especially psych nursing will continue to grow. Corrections and law enforcement...there will ALWAYS be a need. Marketing...a good marketer is worth their weight in gold to a developing company. A little bit of research goes a long way...especially when it is your future you are talking about. I get that some want to go to school...be an english lit major, and be the next great novelist. Saaaaaweeeeeeeet. But...the odds of that happening are very limited. So...go to school, become a petrochem engineer,and write in your spare time. One starts at about 100k while the other starts with an application for Burger King.
    That post should be required reading for high school seniors, maybe sooner, but not until after they've figured out that the 50% or so who think they'll become professional athletes won't actually make the team.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That post should be required reading for high school seniors, maybe sooner, but not until after they've figured out that the 50% or so who think they'll become professional athletes won't actually make the team.
    My favorites are the ones that are just certain that they will make a career of being a professional gamer. I wish I could say I was kidding...

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

    Ok the Nazi party was insane and highly organized. They created gas chambers because the men shooting women and children into ditches had a hard time doing it, so the only "humane" thing to do for the disturbed soldiers was making efficient killing factories. The rallies before the Nazi's rise to power were nothing like the Occupy protest. These were full on events that involved thousands. In the span of 5 years the Nazi Party membership went up from a few hundred to tens of thousands. This is all a very bad comparison.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    True enough...and thats kinda the point. You have to seeka degree in a marketable field with an eye on emerging technologies. Just about any 4 year degree with the word 'engineer' in the title will be one that can be adapted...provided that you stay on top of the markets. IT design and engineer. Energy, robototics, materials processing, bio...all will sustain you provided you dont become complacent. The medical/nursing field and especially psych nursing will continue to grow. Corrections and law enforcement...there will ALWAYS be a need. Marketing...a good marketer is worth their weight in gold to a developing company. A little bit of research goes a long way...especially when it is your future you are talking about. I get that some want to go to school...be an english lit major, and be the next great novelist. Saaaaaweeeeeeeet. But...the odds of that happening are very limited. So...go to school, become a petrochem engineer,and write in your spare time. One starts at about 100k while the other starts with an application for Burger King.
    It seems to me, because most jobs are created by small business, that more should be done in entrepreneurial studies than happens right now. The attitude seems to be that entrepreneurs are just born that way, which is true in a way, but the same could be said for doctors, mechanics or hairdressers.

    Many people have ideas for a business but often are discouraged by the bureaucracy, the fear of failure, their own lack of experience, the skepticism of others, and so on. But being your own boss and succeeding or failing on your own merits is a liberating feeling, whether you end up as a millionaire or not.

    Why this is not given more attention in schools, rather than some of the questionable courses taught, has long been a puzzlement. Were more people familiar with the process there might also be less resentment against those who have been successful.

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That post should be required reading for high school seniors, maybe sooner, but not until after they've figured out that the 50% or so who think they'll become professional athletes won't actually make the team.
    Are you talking about those high school seniors whose parents have no problem plunking down money on the Mega Millions Lottery which gives them 1 in 259 million chance of winning?

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