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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

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    There's a difference between jealousy and injustice. Only the top 1% who use so much of their leverage from wealth to keep the status quo in their favor are out of line.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

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    No, I am watering down nothing....And your ilk already made Hitler a humorous internet meme with Bush.
    Criticizing rich people = rounding up and murdering six million Jews.

    Sure, nothing watered down about that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Criticizing rich people = rounding up and murdering six million Jews.

    Sure, nothing watered down about that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
    What exactly don't you understand about the build up before the concentration camps, and the murder, and the demonetization that took place before anyone that was killed? It has been explained a few times in the thread...I suggest you go back and re read, then maybe you can discuss the subject intelligently....
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you work in your own self interests grip?
    Naturally, though if I had more money than I or my family could spend in several lifetimes hopefully I would be a little more altruistic towards humanity as a whole. These people are the leaders, employers, mover and shakers of the world who should see that it's in their own best interests to get the general populace employed and paid well for their own business models to prosper in the future. They rely 70% on retail sales and if they strip all the money out of the average buyers pockets they slow the very growth and productivity they're reliant on.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

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    They're not even ****ing remotely comparable.
    actually they are.. considering Alinsky and Obamas tactics

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Naturally, though if I had more money than I or my family could spend in several lifetimes hopefully I would be a little more altruistic towards humanity as a whole. These people are the leaders, employers, mover and shakers of the world who should see that it's in their own best interests to get the general populace employed and paid well for their own business models to prosper in the future. They rely 70% on retail sales and if they strip all the money out of the average buyers pockets they slow the very growth and productivity they're reliant on.
    Easy to say from the side that has NO CLUE what it is to have built something to attain that sort of wealth...But, since you answer "naturally" to the question I asked on self interests, why would you expect anyone else to do otherwise?
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Criticizing rich people = rounding up and murdering six million Jews.

    Sure, nothing watered down about that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
    history you falied at.... your ignorance is on display along with your crassness

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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh come now...Just because you want so hard to dismiss the thought of it, I think you are letting your own opinion get in the way. It is clear what the push of Obama was with that narrative...And many American's found it offensive.




    We could deal with it in many ways that have nothing to do with Government intervention.



    Union membership is a relic of a foregone past. They no longer have a place in today's society. Many have seen, and hopefully learned the lesson of what out of control negotiations have done to harm business, and jobs, and don't want to repeat that nightmare. As for education I agree. We need stronger focus on educating our young people, and less focus on nonsense degrees, and tenured, bloated administrations that do little to educate, and are all about protecting the academic bloat.



    Agreed, but the current populist bent, unfortunately is all about nationalizing.



    Why should they? If I worked hard all my life to build wealth, and did things right to get there, why should I just give it up? What's the incentive in that case to get there?
    Well, the incentive is clearly the fear of persecution by neo nazis who hate wealth.

    But, we've strayed a long way from the original discussion, and into areas in which you and I have more agreement than disagreement. The original article was not about middle class America, but about the wealthy 1% and the somewhat absurd fear that they could be attacked the way the Jews were attacked in Nazi Germany. From the article:

    In his letter titled "Progressive Kristallnacht Coming?" Mr Perkins said: "Writing from the epicentre of progressive thought, San Francisco, I would call attention to the parallels of fascist Nazi Germany to its war on its 'one per cent', namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one per cent, namely the rich.
    Calling for taxes on the rich is a long way from wanting to round them up and put them in concentration camps, don't you think?
    So, I started out by poking a bit of fun at the poor billionaire and his fears, or more accurately, his hyperbola.

    This thread didn't have to be Godwined, it started out that way.

    Now, we've come to Obama, to his statement that the wealthy didn't build the infrastructure that allowed them to become wealthy, to the supposed "class warfare" in a nation in which titles of nobility are prohibited by the supreme law of the land.

    Oh, and unions may be a thing of the past, but that is one of the problems, not one of the solutions.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Easy to say from the side that has NO CLUE what it is to have built something to attain that sort of wealth...But, since you answer "naturally" to the question I asked on self interests, why would you expect anyone else to do otherwise?
    You have no idea what side I'm from. And as far as self interests, I already explained it's in their interest to keep the money flowing. If you can't understand how the economy is connected by a society of people and that if a majority are made poor by the top few it will hurt them also, then I can't make you comprehend.

    But eventually everyone will see the results.
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    Re: Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi persecuti

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It doesn't even come CLOSE.

    For those who truly call for all rich to have everything taken away, that's wrong and that's in an extreme minority.

    For those who say the rich should contribute more in taxes because they have benefited the most from society... you can hardly characterize that as "demonization".

    Certainly nothing remotely comparable to the demonization that jews endured under the third reich.

    It does a great deal of insult to the people who actually went through the holocaust and what preceded it to suggest this gentlemans comparison is anything but crap.
    Analogy is not equation. The analogy was simply noting a similarity, as of style. Saying someone is dumb as a doorknob does not mean you think the person is actually a doorknob.
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