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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Ghadaffi was using his military to kill his own people. Is that what you call "stability"? The problem now is radical groups that are trying to make it a religious state. The Saudi's are more to blame for Libya instability now than the US. Iran is similarly to blame for the renewed sectarian violence in Iraq. The difference in Libya was our level of involvement. Was it worth 4000 lives and a trillion dollars to hand Iraq to the Iranians? No. Was it worth a few airstrikes to stop the slaughter of civilians in Libya? Easily, even with the risk of further "instability" which is always present when a regime is overthrown.
    Again, there was no UN authority to overthrow a government. No UN body, or god himself, for that matter, has charged the US with the task of overthrowing governments around the world, much as we do it. Those days are coming to an end however. There are countries now, with sufficient power to menace the US and impede this imperialistic agenda, at the very least its going to become more difficult.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The US didn't interfere, alone. If France hadn't been chomping at the bit to intervene, Obama probably wouldn't have touched it with a 10-foot pole.
    Bull ****, if Obama didn't want to touch it, all he had to do was ask congress. Then he could have told France, sorry fellas, my hands are tied. Oh he wanted it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obviously you're not familiar with the resolution. So Obama abused the UN resolution, and in your opinion, he got this one right. That's typical for a hawk.
    I would have to reread the document to be totally sure of the wording. But at the time I checked it out and it seemed a good piece of work. Also it seemed happily in line with the UN's norms. What exactly is your problem with it?

    And yes. I think it was good that the neighborhood took care of the problem arising from the unruly behavior of the dictator's subjects. And yes. I think it was right for Obama to give logistical support.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bull ****, if Obama didn't want to touch it, all he had to do was ask congress. Then he could have told France, sorry fellas, my hands are tied. Oh he wanted it.
    Be that as it may, France is as much to blame for overthrowing Kadaffi as the United States.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The UN is only concerned with how much their peace keeping forces have to pay for bananas.
    The cost of bananas is surely an important issue, when dealing with the lives of a dictator's subjects.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The US didn't interfere, alone. If France hadn't been chomping at the bit to intervene, Obama probably wouldn't have touched it with a 10-foot pole.
    That's Right Apdst......it was the French who filed 3 resolutions in the UN and the First officially recognize the Rebels and TNC government. Which by the way, they did do that without telling us they were going to. Also the Neo Cons pushed for No Fly Zone Right away.
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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Ghadaffi was using his military to kill his own people. Is that what you call "stability"? The problem now is radical groups that are trying to make it a religious state. The Saudi's are more to blame for Libya instability now than the US. Iran is similarly to blame for the renewed sectarian violence in Iraq. The difference in Libya was our level of involvement. Was it worth 4000 lives and a trillion dollars to hand Iraq to the Iranians? No. Was it worth a few airstrikes to stop the slaughter of civilians in Libya? Easily, even with the risk of further "instability" which is always present when a regime is overthrown.

    Where were all the pics of this? Where were all the headlines, where was the proof of genocide.....other than what The French, Brits, and the US was saying?

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Another US foreign policy success.


    At least four Egyptian embassy personnel have been kidnapped in the Libyan capital Tripoli, the Libyan foreign ministry says.

    Another embassy official was seized in the Libyan capital on Friday.

    Several kidnappings of officials in Libya recently have been blamed on militias. They are often paid by the government, but their allegiance and who controls them remain in doubt.


    BBC News - Egyptian embassy staff 'seized'in Libya


    Heya Monte. It appears Egypt is closing up shop and taking their people with them now.


    Egypt diplomats quit Libya after kidnappings......

    Egypt's ambassador and his staff have left Libya for security reasons after the kidnapping of five of their colleagues, the foreign ministry said Sunday.

    "The ambassador and more than 50 staff and diplomats of the Egyptian embassy left Tripoli on Saturday evening," ministry spokesman Saeed Lassoued told AFP.

    The evacuation had been decided on security grounds, he said, as Libyan authorities worked to secure the release of the abducted diplomats.

    Justice Minister Salah al-Marghani has implicitly linked the kidnappings to the arrest in Egypt on Friday of a prominent former Libyan rebel commander who fought in the 2011 uprising against Moamer Kadhafi.

    Shaaban Hadeia, head of the Operations Centre of Libya's Thuwar (revolutionaries), was arrested in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria.

    "We await an explanation from our Egyptian brothers on the accusations against Shaaban Hadeia," Marghani said late Saturday, while condemning the kidnappings as a "criminal act".

    The foreign ministry, meanwhile, said it was in contact with Cairo requesting information on Hadeia and seeking his early release.....snip~

    Yahoo!

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The cost of bananas is surely an important issue, when dealing with the lives of a dictator's subjects.
    The UN peacekeeping forces buy bananas and then trade the bananas for sex with young little starving girls.

    That's your UN at work keeping the peace while getting a piece.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    The moral of this story is...if you get posted to a Libyan Embassy...refuse it.

    Also, whatever side 21'st century America picks in a civil war will either lose or be the wrong one.

    Solution? Don't meddle in other countries internal affairs other then humanitarian efforts...unless a major genocide is taking place (like in Rwanda, where that coward Clinton actually removed troops from back in '94).

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