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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Not only were the bulk killed by Gaddafi with his superior arsenal and use of such weaponry on Libyan cities, but the war would never have lasted as long as it did if the dictator in Tripoli had stepped down.
    What government on earth would "Step Down" because a band of thugs backed by a group of nations demanded so. I think this boils down to what we long ago had understanding of. International law and the UN is nice for formalities and official hearings and such. But they have little bearing on US interests. The West grabbed the resolution and ran with it, missiles flying before the ink had dried and never bothered with its details and restrictions. You are ok with that, I'm not. What else is there to debate between us? Nothing.
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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Thankfully they were! =D
    Like I said, your cool with the violation of international, until that is, it's by someone or country you don't like or disagree with. And then, it has full relevance and power.
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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What government on earth would "Step Down" because a band of thugs backed by a group of nations demanded so. I think this boils down to what we long ago had understanding of. International law and the UN is nice for formalities and official hearings and such. But they have little bearing on US interests. The West grabbed the resolution and ran with it, missiles flying before the ink had dried and never bothered with its details and restrictions. You are ok with that, I'm not. What else is there to debate between us? Nothing.
    Oh I'm not saying it would be rational for a dictator to surrender power when he's enjoyed nearly a half century of unchallenged personal rule. Unlike you I'm not overly burdened by the 'rights' of dictators or their 'governments' instead my sympathies are with the democrats.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Like I said, your cool with the violation of international, until that is, it's by someone or country you don't like or disagree with. And then, it has full relevance and power.
    Yep! It advances a superior agenda and end. Of course the illusion needs to be maintained and thankfully it is.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

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    It is a conspiracy and crack pot website. Everything from 9/11 Truth to Chem Trails.
    I guess the question was more rhetorical, because I am familiar with the site. But yeah, their on par, or even maybe worse, than WND.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Oh I'm not saying it would be rational for a dictator to surrender power when he's enjoyed nearly a half century of unchallenged personal rule. Unlike you I'm not overly burdened by the 'rights' of dictators or their 'governments' instead my sympathies are with the democrats.
    You keep trying to stick your cheap shot in there, but that's because that's all you've got. Can you quote me giving sympathy to Gaddafi? My point from the beginning with you has been a sympathy for rule of law, international law, UN oversight. My main concern is in how the US is going about its business. Which is by deceit, in disregard for international law and by entering sovereign states and fomenting, enabling, and supporting uprisings to topple governments. It's bull****, whether or not you like it. And it makes the US less safe not more.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I guess the question was more rhetorical, because I am familiar with the site. But yeah, their on par, or even maybe worse, than WND.
    I provided you with other sources concurring. You too denying special ops forces were operating inside Libya before and during the uprising?
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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You keep trying to stick your cheap shot in there, but that's because that's all you've got. Can you quote me giving sympathy to Gaddafi? My point from the beginning with you has been a sympathy for rule of law, international law, UN oversight. My main concern is in how the US is going about its business. Which is by deceit, in disregard for international law and by entering sovereign states and fomenting, enabling, and supporting uprisings to topple governments. It's bull****, whether or not you like it. And it makes the US less safe not more.
    I don't have to quote it, it is the default position you are establishing for yourself.

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Yep! It advances a superior agenda and end. Of course the illusion needs to be maintained and thankfully it is.
    I know that some people feel that way about it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Egyptian embassy staff "seized" in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I don't have to quote it, it is the default position you are establishing for yourself.
    Well it was obvious you would fail at that, because you wont find it. Your positions are clear. You are pro-war, killed civilians are collateral damage. Law is good when its on your side, and taking out a dictator is good regardless of the cost, as long as doing so will advance corporate interests. So don't feign that faux handwringing of humanitarian abuses.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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