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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I am 100% for recycling. I don't think we should have cemeteries or anything of the sort, it's a waste of land. You're dead, you're dead. Harvest the organs for living humans, recycle the rest. Keep a personal monument of remembrance in your own home.
    i find that repulsive and hugely disrespectful and a violation of rights. You would have to kill me to take any member of my families body and do with it as YOU wish and not as they or i wanted.

    I mean really, you show up for my daughter body or wife body for recycling and its not what they wanted or what thier religion wants? you WILL have to shoot me.

    just saying lol

    some people have religions that if you did that to them they dont make it to their kingodm or after life etc etc
    in 2014 i would never support such a thing
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Ben, I'm not doing this with you. Read the article. See what non existing statutory reason they used to keep the woman on life support. IT WAS NONSENSE!
    Go on. Why did they do it?

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The "14 week thing" is human life with the potential to be what we'd agree is a person. A dead person has no potential. Corpse has no rights, so we have the right to life on part of the fetus vs right to property on part of the husband. In that case, I'd err on the side of human life.

    There's no logic to deny the life of a human over desires of inanimate objects.
    And where law in question is concerned, it was never applicable because she was dead.

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They're already "at rest". Dead is dead. The dead don't give a **** about anything, they're dead. You cannot give a **** about anything when dead, you're dead.
    weird, are you saying in your story we are all dead? who is they? lol
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And where law in question is concerned, it was never applicable because she was dead.
    Indeed, an inanimate object's desires are not applicable particularly when they conflict with human life.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    weird, are you saying in your story we are all dead? who is they? lol
    try to keep up
    OMG...this is the most pathetic deflection since anything Navy Pride has posted.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    on a side note im actually happy this wasnt me, if i had no kids i would have DEFINITELY went to jail, theres is no way i would have let the hospital disrespect and defile my wife's dead body for two months. Jail time would be worth it to put my family at rest.
    "The hospital" is acting on MD orders.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    i find that repulsive and hugely disrespectful and a violation of rights. You would have to kill me to take any member of my families body and do with it as YOU wish and not as they or i wanted.

    I mean really, you show up for my daughter body or wife body for recycling and its not what they wanted or what thier religion wants? you WILL have to shoot me.

    just saying lol

    some people have religions that if you did that to them they dont make it to their kingodm or after life etc etc
    in 2014 i would never support such a thing
    What violation of rights? The force here is exerted against the husband's right to property, that's it. Does property overrule human life?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You do realize there's no force against the dead woman, yes? Dead people lay there on their own. There was force against the husband's right to property, not the corpse.
    In effect, yes, they did force a dead woman to lay on their premise to serve as an illegal incubator....

    And yes, the husband had every right to become his wife's medical power of attorney despite her not leaving an Advanced Directive. And technically, he could ALSO have made the request to the hospital to ABORT the fetus. But that was being accomplished by the husband's request to remove the woman from life support.

    The outcome would be two fold. One - the fetus would certainly die. Two - her body (in which the fetus resided) could then be removed from the hospital premise.

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    "The hospital" is not the entity making the decisions. The MD is.
    True, but the hospital was the defendant in the case.
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