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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Well. It's over, John. The hospital didn't have a statutory argument. They made a completely reckless claim that they were held legally responsible to keep the fetus alive until viability age between 26 and 28 week. NONSENSE!

    The fetus was 14 weeks old when the woman died. There is no legal protection for a 14 week old fetus. The husband had every right to stand proxy in determining his wife's fate.
    Haha, now you are adding wants. Did the judge say the law was baseless or its application to this woman was baseless?

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Well. It's over, John. The hospital didn't have a statutory argument. They made a completely reckless claim that they were held legally responsible to keep the fetus alive until viability age between 26 and 28 week. NONSENSE!

    The fetus was 14 weeks old when the woman died. There is no legal protection for a 14 week old fetus. The husband had every right to stand proxy in determining his wife's fate.
    Yes it is over, and we will have to simply acknowledge that we disagree as to why it's over.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I do not know enough about these things, but how is it possible to keep anything alive inside of something brain dead and decaying? Science is wonderful, but nature does what nature does! This make me want to throw up, for the fetus's sake!

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    I don't presume to know the medical ins and outs of this - most of medicine is a mystery to me. I simply know that there are cases where a dead body has remained "functioning" while a fetus has developed inside until viable. In another thread on this subject, I posted an article about a woman who died at 15 wks pregnant and they kept her on life support for 12 weeks and the child was born and is now normal, healthy, and a pre-teen, so it can be done in certain circumstances.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I do not know enough about these things, but how is it possible to keep anything alive inside of something brain dead and decaying? Science is wonderful, but nature does what nature does! This make me want to throw up, for the fetus's sake!

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Haha, now you are adding wants. Did the judge say the law was baseless or its application to this woman was baseless?
    CNN reported that the judge said it was not applicable since she was dead.

    I am waiting for the transcript to make sure they got it right, though.

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes it is over, and we will have to simply acknowledge that we disagree as to why it's over.
    How can you disagree? The hospital's defense was published what . They were WRONG.

    They had zero guarantee that if they kept that deformed fetus alive to viability that it would live. And if it lived...and it would have been against the wishes of the father, would the hospital assume financial liability for however long the child lived?

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    also like i said i hope the next step is getting this law thrown out or amendment so it no longer go against rights and RvW.
    THe familys suffering is over and the child can be put to rest thank god but theres still more that needs done.
    It's not really against RvW though. There is claim to property for sure, but that's about it.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    How can you disagree? The hospital's defense was published what . They were WRONG.

    They had zero guarantee that if they kept that deformed fetus alive to viability that it would live. And if it lived...and it would have been against the wishes of the father, would the hospital assume financial liability for however long the child lived?
    I asked that very important question i also asked who is paying for any of this?

    how expensive is it to keep somebody on life support i read it can be like 3-11k a day, at two months thats a lot of money

    i hope they dont expect to give that bill to the husband
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not really against RvW though. There is claim to property for sure, but that's about it.
    curious why doesnt it go against RvW? aborting can be done for any reason prior to 24 weeks

    a law saying that this istuation negates that 24 week window no matter what the woman wanted is against that
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    I asked that very important question i also asked who is paying for any of this?

    how expensive is it to keep somebody on life support i read it can be like 3-11k a day, at two months thats a lot of money

    i hope they dont expect to give that bill to the husband
    I think the bill is really the only real contention, I don't see there being some moral quandary over keeping a body warm to protect and deliver a human.
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