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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you said they are already at rest they are dead when talkign about my family
    2.) im ahead of you since i never claimed you didnt say this lol
    3.) no emotions involved at all in this, you fail again

    like i said i only had ONE post based on emotion, the rest i base on my opinion and law, this is afact you can never change
    OMG...this is just ridiculous. They are already at rest, indeed. The person already died, they are at rest. You cannot be at more rest than dead. You're trying to just play a pronoun game and it's ridiculous. This is just dishonest skulduggery to avoid the points.

    Everything comes down to rights. The dead woman has no rights as it is dead. The husband has right to property over the corpse of his former wife. And the fetus is a living, human life. So it's life vs. property. As I said, you take property and I take life; there is nothing more than that.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    1.)There's no flustering here, you're inventing it to satiate your own ego.
    2.)I never said that the husband didn't have rights.
    3.) I did in fact say that he had right to property in this case.
    4.) It is very clearly the life of the fetus vs the property rights of the husband.
    5.) No matter how much you want to say otherwise, you cannot distract from this fact.
    6.) Live vs. property, you come down on the side of property and I come down on the side of life.
    7.) That's all there is to it.
    1.) another failed deflection
    what ego the one where i admit this has to go to court to decided because theres no rulling and its just my opinion of how the court case will pan out? that ego? thats HILARIOUS
    2.) i didnt say you said that either
    3.) yes you did say that
    4.) yes you have this opinion
    5.) see #4
    6.) see #4
    7.) yes you have an opinion that is all there is to it currently
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    They weren't at all confused. They were playing an underhanded legal game...and they lost.
    You are making allegations for which you've provided no evidence. Provide proof that the hospital made a "reckless attempt" by "stealth." Name the hospital administrator whom you have claimed elsewhere is "pro-life."

    Or, alternatively, you could just stick to facts rather than spinning your judgments based on your own bias.

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) thats because its true per the examples
    2.) see 1#
    3.) yes this was the texas law
    4.) wrong again and your dishonest is further showing, i have stated the hospital did the right thing BY TEXAS LAW and i have also said the the law needs challenged because in my opinion it violates other laws and rights. So YES i am factually basing it on law
    5.) lol another failed lie and defleciton
    You made no example. Inanimate objects have no rights, do you contend that point? What is your proof then? I have a neigh infinite set of inanimate objects without rights.

    you don't like the law is all, you got emotional talking about how you're going to fight people and blah blah blah, that's all there is to it. You didn't base an argument in law as RvW has no bearing here and the State law was as the hospital followed. You're just making things up to pretend you have a point and to gloss over your emotional outburst. But you haven't actually made a valid argument.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I was referring to the husband stating that when he went to kiss her forehead, she smelled like death, instead of her usual scent.
    What does death smell like? I have worked with dying patients and even cleansed bodies and put them in body bags. I noticed no odor. I think the man is just being dramatic. Nobody smells good in the hospital, particularly if they haven't been bathed and I doubt that she has been. A comatose person on life support has a body that is functioning just like it did before it became comatose with the exception of things like the brain and the muscles going into contracture. The person does not lie there and 'decay.'

    You should read up on people who have been buried alive. One of the founding fathers, I forget which one, left instructions for his body to lie open above ground until it began to decay to be sure he was dead. In 'the old days' a lot of people got buried in a comatose state, the woke up. that was discovered when old cemeteries were dug up and moved.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) another failed deflection
    what ego the one where i admit this has to go to court to decided because theres no rulling and its just my opinion of how the court case will pan out? that ego? thats HILARIOUS
    2.) i didnt say you said that either
    3.) yes you did say that
    4.) yes you have this opinion
    5.) see #4
    6.) see #4
    7.) yes you have an opinion that is all there is to it currently
    It was not failed deflection, you're trying to read into that which does not exist. I did not say that "I would have to go to jail" and make other threats over the case, that was you. And you stating that it's my opinion is wishful thinking. The fetus is living human life and the husband has right to property over his former wife's body. It's life vs. property, you choose property and I choose life; that's all there is to it. All this other deflection you're throwing out there is to try to cover that fact. It's ok to be for property over life, you're entitled to your opinion. But to claim it's not property vs life is just dishonest nonsense.
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    1.)OMG...this is just ridiculous. They are already at rest, indeed.
    2.) The person already died, they are at rest. You cannot be at more rest than dead.
    3.) You're trying to just play a pronoun game and it's ridiculous. This is just dishonest skulduggery to avoid the points.
    4.) Everything comes down to rights.
    5.) The dead woman has no rights as it is dead. The husband has right to property over the corpse of his former wife.
    6.) And the fetus is a living, human life.
    7.) So it's life vs. property. As I said, you take property and I take life; there is nothing more than that.
    1.) now they are not, they factually are not
    2.) again thank you for proving my point, me, the baby and the family are all still alive, aka NOT DEAD
    3.) no you factually made the mistake of guessing wrong and assuming what i meant and simply cant admit this fact. WHen i said my family was at rest it meant ALL OF US. again YOUR fault, YOUR mistake lol SOrry this fact will never change
    4.) i agree with this opinion
    5.) the woman. husband and family all have rights as shown earlier
    6.) correct
    7.) yes you stated this opinion of yours earlier
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) now they are not, they factually are not
    2.) again thank you for proving my point, me, the baby and the family are all still alive, aka NOT DEAD
    3.) no you factually made the mistake of guessing wrong and assuming what i meant and simply cant admit this fact. WHen i said my family was at rest it meant ALL OF US. again YOUR fault, YOUR mistake lol SOrry this fact will never change
    4.) i agree with this opinion
    5.) the woman. husband and family all have rights as shown earlier
    6.) correct
    7.) yes you stated this opinion of yours earlier
    Life vs property, that's what it comes down to. That is fact. You choose property, I choose life. That's all there is to it. You're making an awful song and dance here to try to pretend it's something that it's not. You can just admit it, you take property over life.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    1.) You made no example. Inanimate objects have no rights, do you contend that point? What is your proof then? I have a neigh infinite set of inanimate objects without rights.

    2.) you don't like the law is all
    3.), you got emotional talking about how you're going to fight people and blah blah blah, that's all there is to it.
    4.) You didn't base an argument in law as RvW has no bearing here and the State law was as the hospital followed.
    5.) You're just making things up to pretend you have a point and to gloss over your emotional outburst. But you haven't actually made a valid argument.
    1.) another posted lie
    2.) wrong i think the TEXAS law violate rights and other laws
    3.) another failed deflection
    4.) see #1
    5.) see #1

    lol and nothing has change i want this to go to court and the texas law is challenged and loses rights and other laws nothing emotional there another fact that proves your post wrong
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    Re: Judge: brain-dead pregnant woman to be removed from life support

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) another posted lie
    2.) wrong i think the TEXAS law violate rights and other laws
    3.) another failed deflection
    4.) see #1
    5.) see #1

    lol and nothing has change i want this to go to court and the texas law is challenged and loses rights and other laws nothing emotional there another fact that proves your post wrong
    It's not a posted lie. The Texas law could not violate the rights of the woman as the woman is no longer a woman and corpses have no rights.

    But where's your proof in all this, I asked and got nothing but deflection. If inanimate objects have rights, then surely you can demonstrate this positive claim, yes?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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