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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Probably true. But are you denying that republicans vote "R"? **** partisans.
    Absolutely not denying this. R votes as blind as D.

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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Absolutely not denying this. R votes as blind as D.
    And we reach agreement!
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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I don't think that is the problem the OP has with what they are doing. I think the problem he is having is that they are out right admitting that they are going to attempt to push any other contender out of the picture. By admitting that they are already gathering the money to do this very thing it is discouraging other contenders that don't or won't have the ability to raise the kind of money that would be required to counter them. As the OP stated, it is a bully tactic.
    It is politics. A very ugly business.

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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And we reach agreement!
    Independents, Libertarians, Pirates....hell even green sometimes....independent thinkers. Vote any direction, they look at the candidate not the party affiliation.

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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    This is really disconcerting. We are more than two years away. That makes this
    announcement a bully tactic to threaten possible primary contenders to not even bother to try because you will be buried alive with Clinton supporting money. I didn't like Hillary in 2008 and this kind of shyte will not make me like her much in 2016. For me its just more reasons why we need to get big money out of politics.


    Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    The Obama political operation that once buried Hillary Rodham Clinton’s White House ambitions is now rapidly converging around her possible 2016 presidential bid, conferring on Mrs. Clinton enormous early advantages in money, expertise and voter targeting techniques.

    On Thursday, Priorities USA Action, a “super PAC” that played an important role in helping re-elect President Obama, announced that it was formally aligning itself with Mrs. Clinton and would begin raising money to fend off potential opponents for 2016. The group — the largest Democratic super PAC in the country — also named new directors to steer the organization, appointments that will both cement the group’s pro-Clinton tilt and also thrust veterans of Mr. Obama’s political and fund-raising operation into the center of the post-Obama Democratic Party.
    Well seeing Rob post a thread like this certainly gives me hope.

    I would thank you if I could, ( phone app doesn't let me for some reason ) not because your anti-hillary, but because your'e maintaining a level integrity and objectivity based on the broader issue of political donations.

    I actually agree with you.

    Millions and Millions of dollars in requisite campaign donations guarantees one thing. That that politician was purchased way before they voted in.

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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    this seems like a great way to render your vote largely meaningless. because the politicians no longer need to appeal to you through policy positions
    It's the way the parties work now. 50 years ago the parties had lots of both conservative and liberal members within each party. Now sending a Republican to the House means that he'd be one of a couple more left leaning Republicans in a party that's dominated by people further to the right. The agenda isn't set by the less conservative Republicans. My representative would be a marginalized elected officials in a party that I don't typically with their national platform.

    I'd vote for a Republican in local elections or state elections depending on the guy but not national.
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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    While romney's own super pac proved you can't literally buy the white house, buying the nomination puts them at 50/50 odds practically, surely not a good thing for the concept of democracy. What a farce "majority rules" has become.

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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's the way the parties work now. 50 years ago the parties had lots of both conservative and liberal members within each party. Now sending a Republican to the House means that he'd be one of a couple more left leaning Republicans in a party that's dominated by people further to the right. The agenda isn't set by the less conservative Republicans. My representative would be a marginalized elected officials in a party that I don't typically with their national platform.

    I'd vote for a Republican in local elections or state elections depending on the guy but not national.
    Any politician worth voting for isn't going to vote down party lines, mate ...

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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Any politician worth voting for isn't going to vote down party lines, mate ...
    It has less to do with him voting down party lines and more to do with control of the House or Senate by the Republican party.

    It has a lot to do with national money as well. Are there politicians that would stand firm even if the speaker of the house put on pressure and promised him his pet project will be pork in the bill or the RNC promised campaign money? Sure, but the national agenda of the Republican party does matter and national parties are pretty good at getting what they want from their members.
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    Re: Biggest Liberal ‘Super PAC’ to Fund Possible Clinton Bid

    The sad part is we have a society that is extremely partisan and of the mindset of "Vote for lesser of two evils" that Hillary actually stands a good chance at being president.

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