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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    SO has anybody posted the AG oath yet?
    has anybody post Va law on this yet?
    I did in post #46
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Wouldn't matter, the PA AG is also in violation of her oath of office. The law you quote only allows the AG to use second stringers if it is more efficient to do so or in the state's best interests. Neither is the case here, but rather because she is personally incapable of keeping her oath of office which as you posted reads:

    "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, obey and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth and that I will discharge the duties of my office with fidelity."

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I did in post #46
    awesome, thank you!

    I guess thats why this was said

    ""After a thorough legal review of the matter, Attorney General Herring has concluded that Virginia's current ban is in violation of the U.S. constitution and he will not defend it," spokesman Michael Kelly wrote.

    good to know then like in PA its a none issues and duties and oaths were factually fulfilled

    it was post 43 btw
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He is defending the state's constitution by not presenting unconstitutional arguments for an unconstitutional law. How hard is this? He's not adjudicating anything, there just isn't any argument he can make in court. Notice that not one conservative in this thread has presented a legal argument they think he can make.
    So you're saying he cannot kep his oath or do the job he signed on for. Got it.

    And the reason is that that is not what this thread is about. No one, but you obviously, wants to turn this into another "is homosexual marriage constitutional" thread. If you really need that, there are hundreds of existing threads that will satisfy your need.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wouldn't matter, the PA AG is also in violation of her oath of office. The law you quote only allows the AG to use second stringers if it is more efficient to do so or in the state's best interests. Neither is the case here, but rather because she is personally incapable of keeping her oath of office which as you posted reads:
    facts already proved your OPINION wrong months ago, sorry you dont like them but they wont change facts are facts.

    both her job and oaths were completely fulfilled.

    but PLEASE feel free for my entertainment to provide ONE fact that says otherwise and explain why its already been decided that she did.
    ONE FACT not your opinion.
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I did in post #46
    Of this thread? Post #46 is mine.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So you're saying he cannot kep his oath or do the job he signed on for. Got it.
    No, you think upholding the constitution means he should violate the constitution.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    facts already proved your OPINION wrong months ago, sorry you dont like them but they wont change facts are facts.

    both her job and oaths were completely fulfilled.

    but PLEASE feel free for my entertainment to provide ONE fact that says otherwise and explain why its already been decided that she did.
    ONE FACT not your opinion.
    That means she didn't. We all know for FACT that your opinions are not facts though you constantly claim them so. I've already presented the facts here. The AG has a duty to SUPPORT, DEFEND and OBEY the state's laws and constitution.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, you think upholding the constitution means he should violate the constitution.
    Has ANY federal court ruled that provision of the Virginia constitution unconstitutional? No? then your characterization of my argument is as wrong as your own specious argument is.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Yes I was wrong.

    It was#43 not #46
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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