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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Constitution of Virginia

    It's part of the Constitution he is sworn to uphold...

    It's a shame that the people who supported this essentially have no one to protect their right to vote. The same thing happened in Cali with prop 8. The AG didn't like the law so he wouldn't defend it. It's backdoor legalization essentially if you have a private group trying to explain state interest in a court case.

    An AG should enforce laws and uphold them in court, especially constitutional amendments. It's a disservice to all citizens to politicize laws and just chose to not enforce things that they don't like.
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Constitution of Virginia

    It's part of the Constitution he is sworn to uphold...

    It's a shame that the people who supported this essentially have no one to protect their right to vote or even have their legal opinions argued by the state in protection of the state constitution. The same thing happened in Cali with prop 8. The AG didn't like the law so he wouldn't defend it. It's backdoor legalization essentially if you have a private group trying to explain state interest in a court case.

    An AG should enforce laws and uphold them in court, especially constitutional amendments. It's a disservice to all citizens to politicize laws and just chose to not enforce things that they don't like.
    That provision very, very clearly violates the equal protection clause. Not only does it prevent same-sex couples from getting married, it prevents them from even entering into a civil union or any contract that might grant marriage-like benefits.

    That you are defending something so blatantly unconstitutional reveals that you really don't give a **** about protecting the constitution. You want to stick it to the gays. Such hate, it's sad, really.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not only does it prevent same-sex couples from getting married, it prevents them from even entering into a civil union or any contract that might grant marriage-like benefits.
    They can contract to do that in any state.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    They can contract to do that in any state.
    Marriage has certain benefits that a private contract cannot supply. Individuals can hire a lawyer, spend thousands to set up power of attorney, inheritance, etc, but some benefits just can't be duplicated, and therefore that is not equal.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Marriage has certain benefits that a private contract cannot supply.
    Why is that?

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Why is that?
    Because that's the law. Certain benefits are granted only to married couples.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because that's the law. Certain benefits are granted only to married couples.
    Remove the law.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Remove the law.
    You want the government to be able to compel someone to testify against their spouse?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You want the government to be able to compel someone to testify against their spouse?
    Do that remaining silent thing.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Do that remaining silent thing.
    The 5th amendment protects you from incriminating yourself, not your spouse.

    Regardless, spousal privilege exists and cannot be duplicated by private contract other than marriage. Therefore equal protection is not satisfied.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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