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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, you know, just behaving in any manner they want, not enforcing some laws, enforcing others. No big deal, just look the other way if it's something you support. Just hope the next AG doesn't say he is against gay marriage and won't enforce the laws allowing it. You good with that kind of government?
    The law is still being enforced.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    You've got to be kidding.
    He's the state's top lawyer, isn't he? He's going to have an interpretation of the constitutionality of laws.

    So far, no one here has really made a good argument for why Herring was out of line. If what he did was within the scope of his office and he made his position clear before refusing to defend the law, then I'm no seeing the problem here. And let me be absolutely clear on this: if his position was opposite, but still acted predictably and within the scope of his office, I would say the same thing. Would I be personally disappointed? Of course, but I wouldn't say he was out of line.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, you know, just behaving in any manner they want, not enforcing some laws, enforcing others. No big deal, just look the other way if it's something you support. Just hope the next AG doesn't say he is against gay marriage and won't enforce the laws allowing it. You good with that kind of government?
    Again, the law is being enforced. Learn the difference between a defense in court and enforcement.

    I posted the legal brief. Did you read it?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    Again, the law is being enforced. Learn the difference between a defense in court and enforcement.

    I posted the legal brief. Did you read it?
    No, it effectively is not. Change the law, if they want, that's fine. Seems this is getting to more common lately. You get into office and decide not to enforce some laws. Not good.
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    Again, the law is being enforced. Learn the difference between a defense in court and enforcement.

    I posted the legal brief. Did you read it?
    No, I did not see your legal brief. I'll look at it when I get a chance.
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So you're saying he cannot kep his oath or do the job he signed on for. Got it.

    And the reason is that that is not what this thread is about. No one, but you obviously, wants to turn this into another "is homosexual marriage constitutional" thread. If you really need that, there are hundreds of existing threads that will satisfy your need.
    He won't be removed from office because he didn't defend an unconstitutional law. I guess they figured wrong when they made DOMA an amendment, better luck next time.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    No, it effectively is not. Change the law, if they want, that's fine. Seems this is getting to more common lately. You get into office and decide not to enforce some laws. Not good.
    Thomas Jefferson refused to enforce the Sedition Act. Should he have been impeached?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    Thomas Jefferson refused to enforce the Sedition Act. Should he have been impeached?
    so what's your point. elected officials should only enforce laws they find acceptable?

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