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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    As much as I enjoy what the AG is doing, from an legal standpoint, it is hard for me to justify what he is doing. It is the duty of the AG to defend the constitutionality of the laws of his state. Going the extra step of attacking Virginia's marriage ban is indefensible. And I don't think you will find a bigger supporter of same sex marriage than me.
    accurate and rational thinking. better watch it, that could get you thrown out of "marriage equality" club. they don't take kindly to such remarks. to them your defending the '60s southerns sheriff who arrestted blacks for sitting at lunch counters because(just like in Virginia) he was enforcing the laws of the state.

    this is a crusade for them and they don't abide by our petty laws sir! shame on you for implying as much

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    As much as I enjoy what the AG is doing, from an legal standpoint, it is hard for me to justify what he is doing. It is the duty of the AG to defend the constitutionality of the laws of his state. Going the extra step of attacking Virginia's marriage ban is indefensible. And I don't think you will find a bigger supporter of same sex marriage than me.

    Actually I agree, our judicial system is based on the idea of a healthy presentation of both sides of a legal argument and especially in such a high profile area the AG should present the States case in support of such laws. But Republican AG's have been known to do the same thing (see Post #110).

    With that said though the Attorney General's Oath of Office is "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge all the duties incumbent upon me as . . . . . . . . . . according to the best of my ability, (so help me God)."

    The Oath therefore calls for the AG to uphold BOTH the United States Constitution and the VA Constitution, kind of a Catch-22.


    LIS > Code of Virginia > 49-1


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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    As much as I enjoy what the AG is doing, from an legal standpoint, it is hard for me to justify what he is doing. It is the duty of the AG to defend the constitutionality of the laws of his state. Going the extra step of attacking Virginia's marriage ban is indefensible. And I don't think you will find a bigger supporter of same sex marriage than me.
    Can you identify a legal and constitutional basis on which he should defend the law in court?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Don't know why you keep pushing this strawman question. I've not said he should be removed, nor that he isn't allowed to do this, but rather that I think it's bad form and is a mentality and thought process that I think is damaging and outside of the scope of what I think the AG should be doing, not can be doing.

    Also, I already stated my view on the priority front and my disagreement with you trying to present it in that fashion when the AG has not presented this in the least as an issue of being too low of a priority to get to, but rather something he simply disagree with.
    Yet another cop out of "he simply disagrees with."

    I would love for even one person attacking this guy's decision to actually respond to the argument the guy was making. Just one.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Virginia won't defend its same-sex marriage ban

    USA Today has the full copy of the legal brief the AG gave. So can some of you guys read that instead of just spouting off a bunch of bull**** about how he "doesn't like" the law?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Elections have consequences, in this case a good consequence. No longer will millions of Virginians' taxpayer dollars be wasted defending the indefensible.

    Article is here.
    Yes, bad consequence for those you choose to think and look beyond the single issue and recognize the abuse by the government.
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Yes, bad consequence for those you choose to think and look beyond the single issue and recognize the abuse by the government.
    uhmmm what abuse?

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    no, it's his job as attorney general to *interpret* the law...
    You've got to be kidding.
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    uhmmm what abuse?
    Abusing Anthony60's right to abuse someone else's rights.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    uhmmm what abuse?
    Oh, you know, just behaving in any manner they want, not enforcing some laws, enforcing others. No big deal, just look the other way if it's something you support. Just hope the next AG doesn't say he is against gay marriage and won't enforce the laws allowing it. You good with that kind of government?
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