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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Another liberal ideological activist subverts the just will of the people.

    That's all that's happened here.

    The VA AG doesn't think the law is unconstitutional, he ideologically merely panders to the Disaffected Coalition for votes, nothing more.

    Another egregious nose thumbed at the U.S. Constitution and the duties of a public servant.

    TH VA AG should be relieved of his official duties.
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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Another liberal ideological activist subverts the just will of the people.

    That's all that's happened here.

    The VA AG doesn't think the law is unconstitutional, he ideologically merely panders to the Disaffected Coalition for votes, nothing more.

    Another egregious nose thumbed at the U.S. Constitution and the duties of a public servant.

    TH VA AG should be relieved of his official duties.
    Are we to expect overly elongated verbose diatribes again with made up words if gays get married in VA from you

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

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    so true equal rights will be nation wide soon

    but this topic will still be discussed by bigots and people who support discrimination

    just like there are people here that still think woman and minorities are less, all the same crowd.
    I'm sure it will but there won't be need for a new thread every new development, because there won't be any. It will just be more of the same "gay agenda" crap that we see from them already, bitching that some bakery in the middle of nowhere had to make a cake for a wedding.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    will of the people
    Last I checked the US Constitution was the will of the people, not a popular vote in Virginia.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Another liberal ideological activist subverts the just will of the people.

    That's all that's happened here.

    The VA AG doesn't think the law is unconstitutional, he ideologically merely panders to the Disaffected Coalition for votes, nothing more.

    Another egregious nose thumbed at the U.S. Constitution and the duties of a public servant.

    TH VA AG should be relieved of his official duties.
    The US Constitution? What part of that defines or has to do with marriage?

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Oh, and digsbe, it's outright disingenuous to suggest this isn't defending a law because he "doesn't like it." He's not defending the law because he believes it to be unconstitutional and has no grounds on which to defend it. You really should quit trying to dodge actual discussion of the issue like that.
    The second part is hogwash. There are plenty of grounds he could defend it, those grounds are being used all across the country. The reality is he doesn't agree with the law, and doesn't agree with those legal arguments, so he's just deciding to not defend Virginias laws.

    If the state of Virginia passed laws forbidding creationism from being taught in schools and a AG decided he wasn't going to defend it in court because he didn't agree with it and thus couldn't find any legal reasoning he could support, would that be okay?

    I don't actually have an issue with gay marriage, as I think it's unconstitutional on the basis of gender discrimination, but an AGs job is to defend the laws of the state, not ignore them simply because he disagrees.

    But my larger issue as Virginian, so someone actually directly living under this, is that this happens two weeks into office on a MAJOR issue yet he did not make a point about this in any significant way during the election and pointedly tried to deflect around the topic when it was brought up. I find that reprehensible, dishonest, and unfortunate especially in such a razor thin election. The very fact he seemingly hid what was obviously a cause for significant concern for him (as I would hope he wouldn't make such a giant decision based on two weeks of legal research and thinking) knowing it would likely hinder him politically is part of the issue with out political process and culture.

    It also is a sterling example if why I don't fault anyone for voting party line...because both sides have become more and more ideological it seems while also gleefully hiding their true intentions during elections. His actions are a wonderful example that stereotypes exist for a reason.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Another liberal ideological activist subverts the just will of the people.

    That's all that's happened here.

    The VA AG doesn't think the law is unconstitutional, he ideologically merely panders to the Disaffected Coalition for votes, nothing more.

    Another egregious nose thumbed at the U.S. Constitution and the duties of a public servant.

    TH VA AG should be relieved of his official duties.
    Your ignorance of how our government works is not a valid excuse for disenfranchising gays of their rights.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't actually have an issue with gay marriage, as I think it's unconstitutional on the basis of gender discrimination, but an AGs job is to defend the laws of the state, not ignore them simply because he disagrees.
    But you would agree that AG's prioritize which laws they choose to enforce more, wouldn't you? Attorney Generals often make a career of going after just organized crime, drugs, guns crimes, etc. Something's got to make it onto the top of his "couldn't give a crap" list. Might as well be the law against gay marriage.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    When we next get a republican AG, I wonder if people should file suit against the states income tax and then the AG just declare he won't actually defend the states law. Or any laws regulating business or the environment. Or if the state began implementing Obamacare and lawsuits sought to stop it. Or any other law that republicans don't like. Because apparently we should simply have AGs who won't defend the laws of the state if he doesn't like it and this says he doesn't agree with any arguments in favor of the law.

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    Re: Va. AG's office: Gay marriage ban unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    But you would agree that AG's prioritize which laws they choose to enforce more, wouldn't you? Attorney Generals often make a career of going after just organized crime, drugs, guns crimes, etc. Something's got to make it onto the top of his "couldn't give a crap" list. Might as well be the law against gay marriage.
    Or taxes, or education, or businesses, or the environment...let's just go hog wild interjecting ideology heavily into yet another sector of government. Or are you in favor of it only when it's being done towards things you agree with?

    Sorry cardinal, I don't by the "prioritize" excuse. This isn't about privatizing, and the AG even admitted as much...he doesn't think its constitutional personally, so he's just not going to defend it.

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