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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Can anyone think of anything in our historical relationship with Iran that would cause them to trust us for a single second?

    I can come up with several reasons why they should not trust us at all.
    Or vice versa. Hence the dilemma...


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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    IRL, the words "kill" and "murder" do not mean the same thing.
    Yes, I'm well aware. If you note, apdst used the word murder, so I threw it right back at him. If the US is simply "killing" civilians in wars we've been lied into, then I suppose, in defending their interests, Hezbollah is simply killing people. Note my sig line TM.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Iran is not a warring country. And they aren't a threat to world peace. That comes from elsewhere.

    There's really no way to sugarcoat it: The rest of world believes that the United States is the country that poses the greatest threat to world peace, beating out all challengers by a wide margin.

    Womp! This Country Was Named The Greatest Threat To World Peace
    Uhhh, yes they are....


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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The United States is the greatest threat to world peace. That’s the finding of an end-of-the- year, WIN/Gallup International survey of people in 65 countries.
    Of the 66,000 people polled, just under a quarter named Uncle Sam as the greatest threat to world peace.
    Other menaces didn’t even come close: 8 percent named Pakistan, putting that country in second place, while 6 percent named China. A mere 4 percent found Iran threatening — which tied it with Israel.

    US is the greatest threat to world peace: poll | New York Post

    /facepalm


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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, I'm well aware. If you note, apdst used the word murder, so I threw it right back at him. If the US is simply "killing" civilians in wars we've been lied into, then I suppose, in defending their interests, Hezbollah is simply killing people. Note my sig line TM.
    Which word applies depends on the circumstances of the death.

    As I understand it, accidentally killing a civilian during a battle is not considered murder.

    OTOH, intentionally killing a bunch of civilians by suicide-bombing a mall is most definitely murder.

    Perhaps I am wrong in these definitions, but....
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Uhhh, yes they are....
    Oh, come on. Being a terrorist state, a brutal totalitarian dictatorship, the largest supplier of terrorism in the world, attacking various countries by proxy, violating UN resolutions and ratified treaties, genocidal rhetoric, Holocaust denial, Death to America chants in parliament and on loud speakers in the streets, support of Hez, support of Hamas, support of terrorists in Africa, sharing missile tech with North Korea, ignoring human rights and otherwise being all around global douche bags are not things we should hold against the Iranian regime!




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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The first ground rule should be that everyone agrees to what was apparently agreed upon...which doesn't see to be the case at the moment. Why there should be questions is a puzzle to me....is it the wording of the agreement that seems to be causing the misunderstanding?

    When one side is saying "we didn't agree to that!," something is wrong!

    Greetings, ecofarm.

    Do you even have a clue what was agreed on? (yeah, that is kind of a problem for everyone. Nobody seems to know the details....)


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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Which word applies depends on the circumstances of the death.

    As I understand it, accidentally killing a civilian during a battle is not considered murder.

    OTOH, intentionally killing a bunch of civilians by suicide-bombing a mall is most definitely murder.

    Perhaps I am wrong in these definitions, but....
    I told you, apdst used the word murder, so I used it back. But just because fat boy wasnt strapped to a GI's chest doesn't change the fact that 200,000 civilians were targeted and blown up.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I told you, apdst used the word murder, so I used it back. But just because fat boy wasnt strapped to a GI's chest doesn't change the fact that 200,000 civilians were targeted and blown up.
    Actually, you point out the key factor here: Targeted.

    If someone is not a combatant, and is targeted and killed, it's murder.


    I do not recall hearing that the US was intentionally targeting and killing civilians, anywhere. And if we did/are, we shouldn't have/shouldn't.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    /facepalm
    Questioning the accuracy of Gallup. Or just ashamed that the world fears the US's threat to peace over anybody else's. totally pathetic!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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