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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That kind of logic would justify the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the attack on Pearl Harbor.
    The latter was justified.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Iran is not a waring country. And they aren't a threat to world peace. That comes from elsewhere.

    There's really no way to sugarcoat it: The rest of world believes that the United States is the country that poses the greatest threat to world peace, beating out all challengers by a wide margin.

    Womp! This Country Was Named The Greatest Threat To World Peace
    How many innocents have been murdered by Hezbollah?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    The United States is the greatest threat to world peace. That’s the finding of an end-of-the- year, WIN/Gallup International survey of people in 65 countries.
    Of the 66,000 people polled, just under a quarter named Uncle Sam as the greatest threat to world peace.
    Other menaces didn’t even come close: 8 percent named Pakistan, putting that country in second place, while 6 percent named China. A mere 4 percent found Iran threatening — which tied it with Israel.

    http://nypost.com/2014/01/05/us-is-t...ld-peace-poll/
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think we're doing pretty well. I'd prefer a diplomatic solution to invasion and nation building. If the Iranian regime is willing to play ball, we should do everything in our power to push them towards development. War should only be a last resort and only in the most dire circumstances. The deal Obama brokered is being monitored closely and I think it's fine to give it a chance and see if this can be resolved peacefully.
    The first ground rule should be that everyone agrees to what was apparently agreed upon...which doesn't see to be the case at the moment. Why there should be questions is a puzzle to me....is it the wording of the agreement that seems to be causing the misunderstanding?

    When one side is saying "we didn't agree to that!," something is wrong!

    Greetings, ecofarm.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many innocents have been murdered by Hezbollah?
    How many innocents have been murdered by the US. I assure you FAR more than Hezbollah if we're keeping count.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How many innocents have been murdered by the US. I assure you FAR more than Hezbollah if we're keeping count.
    I believe misuse of the term 'murder' is restricted to the abortion subforum.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    US, UK, Australia, Romania, El Salvador, Estonia, Bulgaria, Moldova, Albania, Ukraine, Denmark, Czech Republic, South Korea, Japan, Tonga, Azerbaijan, Singapore, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Latvia, Poland, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Italy, Norway, Hungary, Netherlands, Portugal, New Zealand, Thailand, Philippines, Honduras, Dominican Republic, Spain, Nicaragua and Iceland deployed troops.

    Multi-National Force



    Pretty much all of congress agrees to military action to prevent Iran from obtaining nukes.



    Iran attacks countries all the time, through proxies. They don't even hide it.
    Well then, that's all my points gone.

    Let's attack Iran then! After we negotiate and they don't take it seriously, that is.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How many innocents have been murdered by the US. I assure you FAR more than Hezbollah if we're keeping count.
    IRL, the words "kill" and "murder" do not mean the same thing.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Well then, that's all my points gone.
    Not entirely. There is a perception that the US went it alone. A willingness in congress does not always translate to a willingness among Americans. Iran does not personally attack other countries. All of those nuances must be considered within the context of perception that is often as you described.

    I think Obama is trying to avoid such perceptions by taking all possible alternative avenues explicitly.

    Let's attack Iran then! After we negotiate and they don't take it seriously, that is.
    Let's hope that's not necessary.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Seeing how these righties are speculating about us going to war with Iran or Israel going to war with Iran... I'll speculate. I believe there is going to be a massive change in Iran soon where the split is with the President and the people on one side and the ruling mullahs on the other side. And the people will win. I don't think it will be a bloody revolution or anything like that. I just think the mullah's are about to be done with. They will be ousted from political power. Especially if they try to make hay against the U.S. You heard it here first.

    It all depends on what side the Iranian military goes with. The President? Or the mullahs? I'm thinking the Iranian military will choose to back the one who won't get them killed going to war with the world's preeminent military superpower.

    Believe that you are dreaming in a fantasy world. But on the other hand hope you are correct...


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