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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Seems like we aren't doing much about it though.
    I think we're doing pretty well. I'd prefer a diplomatic solution to invasion and nation building. If the Iranian regime is willing to play ball, we should do everything in our power to push them towards development. War should only be a last resort and only in the most dire circumstances. The deal Obama brokered is being monitored closely and I think it's fine to give it a chance and see if this can be resolved peacefully.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's what it looks like. There does seem to be a rather large discrepancy between what they do and what they scream in public.

    Gee, I wonder who that sounds like?
    Seeing how these righties are speculating about us going to war with Iran or Israel going to war with Iran... I'll speculate. I believe there is going to be a massive change in Iran soon where the split is with the President and the people on one side and the ruling mullahs on the other side. And the people will win. I don't think it will be a bloody revolution or anything like that. I just think the mullah's are about to be done with. They will be ousted from political power. Especially if they try to make hay against the U.S. You heard it here first.

    It all depends on what side the Iranian military goes with. The President? Or the mullahs? I'm thinking the Iranian military will choose to back the one who won't get them killed going to war with the world's preeminent military superpower.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think we're doing pretty well. I'd prefer a diplomatic solution to invasion and nation building. If the Iranian regime is willing to play ball, we should do everything in our power to push them towards development. War should only be a last resort and only in the most dire circumstances. The deal Obama brokered is being monitored closely and I think it's fine to give it a chance and see if this can be resolved peacefully.
    Well, yes. It just doesn't seem as if many countries are willing to deal with what happens if Iran DOESN'T play ball. Possibly an incorrect impression though.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Iran has thousands of centrifuges enriching uranium. Iran has major oil reserves. Iran openly and directly supports Hamas and Hez. If Iran ceased to exist (as you propose) or otherwise ceased enriching and support of Hamas and Hez, the number one threat to Israel will have been eliminated. To presume that 20 (or 30!) more Irans will spring up is utter nonsense. One could bring BS fantasy future as a counter to any proposed change - it means nothing and, in your case, is particularly disconnected from real world possibilities.
    Let me walk you through this.

    1) Knock off Iran. 2) Iran's nuclear material goes missing. 3) Can't track missing material. 4) Groups pop up in Syria, ex-Iranian military, Iraq, Egypt, Libya or wherever. 5) These groups get funding from some Oil country who is a "ally". 6) $$$ = nuclear material. 7) Game over.

    So explain to me oh wise one.. how is that not creating equal risk? Having a central authority in control (Iranian Government) we know who to listen to and who to spy on. It's much much harder tracking those in the dark when you don't know who they are. It's not like a group (terrorist) flat out says these members are in charge of our nuclear program. On the other hand... our years of spying on Iran (and Israels) gives us about 90% idea on what's going on there. Rather know what's going on, then knowing **** all and then bam! We have another "9/11".

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    Iran left alone is the greatest threat to regional and global stability the world has ever seen. No nukes for Iran, the entire Western world agrees.
    Yep, so much so American companies, German Companies, French Companies, British Companies and whoever the hell else sold Nuclear Tech to Iran and has violate sanctions all the time. We are so "tough" and agree all so much.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Well, yes. It just doesn't seem as if many countries are willing to deal with what happens if Iran DOESN'T play ball. Possibly an incorrect impression though.
    Your impression might be correct, to the effect that various levels of commitment have been expressed. Still, I think Obama's current course of action will strengthen a coalition of the willing should such a need arise. It's good that Obama is doing what he can to illustrate US willingness to negotiate and pursue a peaceful resolution.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Let me walk you through this.

    1) Knock off Iran. 2) Iran's nuclear material goes missing. 3) Can't track missing material. 4) Groups pop up in Syria, ex-Iranian military, Iraq, Egypt, Libya or wherever. 5) These groups get funding from some Oil country who is a "ally". 6) $$$ = nuclear material. 7) Game over.
    You said Iran turns to glass. There's no nuclear material to go missing.


    Yep, so much so American companies, German Companies, French Companies, British Companies and whoever the hell else sold Nuclear Tech to Iran and has violate sanctions all the time.
    Citation? I think you're just making this up.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You said Iran turns to glass. There's no nuclear material to go missing.
    Nuclear material doesn't just disappear by bombing to the stone age.. that whole area becomes nuclear material. It's all radioactive.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Nuclear material doesn't just disappear by bombing to the stone age.. that whole area becomes nuclear material. It's all radioactive.
    Now you're just being silly.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Can anyone think of anything in our historical relationship with Iran that would cause them to trust us for a single second?

    I can come up with several reasons why they should not trust us at all.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Now you're just being silly.
    I suppose you could make a really poor dirty bomb out of radioactive rubble? Be damned unwieldy though.
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