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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    You can't avoid it.
    Your position is that Israel is doomed to be nuked by Iran? That's stupid.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Substitute the "we" in all the above sentences w/"US government", and then it will be correct.
    Already did. Notice the "US" in parenthesis in my post on question? The rest is implied.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Your position is that Israel is doomed to be nuked by Iran? That's stupid.
    You can't prevent any group (terrorist group) like Hezbollah from getting nuclear material. You can literally bomb Iran into glass and it won't chance the risk Israel still has.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    You can't prevent any group (terrorist group) like Hezbollah from getting nuclear material. You can literally bomb Iran into glass and it won't chance the risk Israel still has.
    Of course it would change the risk. The Iranian terrorist regime openly and directly supports Hamas and Hez. The greatest risk to Israel will have been eliminated.

    We might note, no one wants to bomb Iran into glass.

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    True, but people of the ME seem to be very treacherous, and sometimes I worry that people like Kerry are too eager to claim victory by making foolish concessions. Reagan adopted a Russian saying, "Trust but verify". Never completely trust these bastards, because they've seen the North Koreans get away with things.
    Frankly, I don't get the impression they take this negotiating bit seriously. Or the US for that matter.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Of course it would change the risk. The Iranian terrorist regime openly and directly supports Hamas and Hez. The greatest risk to Israel will have been eliminated.

    We might note, no one wants to bomb Iran into glass.
    No one except those equally as nutty.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Of course it would change the risk. The Iranian terrorist regime openly and directly supports Hamas and Hez. The greatest risk to Israel will have been eliminated.

    We might note, no one wants to bomb Iran into glass.

    No, it would not change the risk. For every action there is a reaction. Bombing Iran for whatever reason will spring more groups who will seek the ability to use a nuke. Iran left alone is more stable then creating 20 or 30 groups seeking nuclear material on the black market.

    Think Iraq post-invasion.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    No, it would not change the risk. For every action there is a reaction. Bombing Iran for whatever reason will spring more groups who will seek the ability to use a nuke.
    Iran has thousands of centrifuges enriching uranium. Iran has major oil reserves. Iran openly and directly supports Hamas and Hez. If Iran ceased to exist (as you propose) or otherwise ceased enriching and support of Hamas and Hez, the number one threat to Israel will have been eliminated. To presume that 20 (or 30!) more Irans will spring up is utter nonsense. One could bring BS fantasy future as a counter to any proposed change - it means nothing and, in your case, is particularly disconnected from real world possibilities.

    Iran left alone is more stable then creating 20 or 30 groups seeking nuclear material on the black market.
    Iran left alone is the greatest threat to regional and global stability the world has ever seen. No nukes for Iran, the entire Western world agrees.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Iran has thousands of centrifuges enriching uranium. Iran has major oil reserves. Iran openly and directly supports Hamas and Hez. If Iran ceased to exist (as you propose) or otherwise ceased enriching and support of Hamas and Hez, the number one threat to Israel will have been eliminated. To presume that 20 (or 30!) more Irans will spring up is utter nonsense. One could bring BS fantasy future as a counter to any proposed change - it means nothing and, in your case, is particularly disconnected from real world possibilities.



    Iran left alone is the greatest threat to regional and global stability the world has ever seen. No nukes for Iran, the entire Western world agrees.
    Seems like we aren't doing much about it though.
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    Re: Iranian official on nuke deal: 'We did not agree to dismantle anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's all fine and good, unless your opponent sees war as a first resort.
    Unfounded fear. It seems to be ruling you.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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