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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Deadly means you have to die, by the way.
    Forgot to address this before.

    Actually no, you do not have to die from something deadly. There are many ways to survive something that is deadly. For example if you continueally inject yourself with a rattlesnakes venom in small doses you will eventually become immune to its deadly venom (or at least immune enough to not die from it). The reason that you become immune to it is because you build up a tolerance to that venom. Your body will eventually inhibit the effects of that venom. This does not mean that if you get bit by a rattlesnake that the venom is not deadly because it is still the same venom. Your bodies defenses will just inhibit it. The only difference here is that it is the THC doing the inhibiting of the deadly carcinogens and not your body.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Forgot to address this before.

    Actually no, you do not have to die from something deadly. There are many ways to survive something that is deadly. For example if you continueally inject yourself with a rattlesnakes venom in small doses you will eventually become immune to its deadly venom (or at least immune enough to not die from it). The reason that you become immune to it is because you build up a tolerance to that venom. Your body will eventually inhibit the effects of that venom. This does not mean that if you get bit by a rattlesnake that the venom is not deadly because it is still the same venom. Your bodies defenses will just inhibit it. The only difference here is that it is the THC doing the inhibiting of the deadly carcinogens and not your body.
    Because you seemed to want to ignore what I wrote on that very same subject, I'll just repost it right here:

    RabidAlpaca: "Let's, for a minute, assume there are "deadly" carcinogens that get completely nullified by the THC. Who cares? That's like saying "You know, if water didn't have oxygen to counteract the hydrogen, we'd be drinking pure hydrogen which would kill us."

    It's a nonsense argument. Let's look at the plant as a whole. I use it regularly and I've found it dramatically enriches my life. If there were negative effects, or even deadly ones, where are they?"


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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Let's, for a minute, assume there are "deadly" carcinogens that get completely nullified by the THC. Who cares? That's like saying "You know, if water didn't have oxygen to counteract the hydrogen, we'd be drinking pure hydrogen which would kill us."
    Actually your body also needs hydrogen. How Is Hydrogen Used in the Body? That is why we can survive just fine with hydrogen being in the air. Of course like anything else too much hydrogen can kill you. Just as too much pure oxygen can kill you also.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's a nonsense argument. Let's look at the plant as a whole. I use it regularly and I've found it dramatically enriches my life. If there were negative effects, or even deadly ones, where are they?
    How about we instead acknowledge that there are certain things in marijuana that are indeed dangerous to humans and start using the ways that are now available which eliminate them (such as vaporizers). You still get your high from the THC so whats the difference? Better safe than sorry.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Because you seemed to want to ignore what I wrote on that very same subject, I'll just repost it right here:
    Or you can just be patient and give me time to respond to that post? I was writing that post that you just quoted while you were posting that one you know. Beyond that...what have I ignored exactly again?

    Now...why didn't you address the post that you just quoted instead of claiming that I have ignored some part of your arguement?

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    So where are the bodies?
    Where have I stated that marijuana kills? You seem to keep ignoring that question...as the post that you just quoted shows, just because something is considered deadly does not mean that it will always kill. Deadly things can be inhibited to the point where they are no longer deadly. But that...again...that doesn't mean that they themselves are not deadly.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually your body also needs hydrogen. How Is Hydrogen Used in the Body? That is why we can survive just fine with hydrogen being in the air. Of course like anything else too much hydrogen can kill you. Just as too much pure oxygen can kill you also.



    How about we instead acknowledge that there are certain things in marijuana that are indeed dangerous to humans and start using the ways that are now available which eliminate them (such as vaporizers). You still get your high from the THC so whats the difference? Better safe than sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Or you can just be patient and give me time to respond to that post? I was writing that post that you just quoted while you were posting that one you know. Beyond that...what have I ignored exactly again?

    Now...why didn't you address the post that you just quoted instead of claiming that I have ignored some part of your arguement?



    Where have I stated that marijuana kills? You seem to keep ignoring that question...as the post that you just quoted shows, just because something is considered deadly does not mean that it will always kill. Deadly things can be inhibited to the point where they are no longer deadly. But that...again...that doesn't mean that they themselves are not deadly.



    Sorry, I only speak English.

    If you're not claiming that marijuana has killed anyone, or willing to provide any evidence of such, we don't really have anything to discuss. There doesn't seem to be a point to anything you're saying. Good day.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If you're not claiming that marijuana has killed anyone, or willing to provide any evidence of such, we don't really have anything to discuss. There doesn't seem to be a point to anything you're saying. Good day.
    Just as well. Your refuseal to acknowledge that marijuana has the same deadly carcinogens that tobacco has is getting redundant.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Just as well. Your refuseal to acknowledge that marijuana has the same deadly carcinogens that tobacco has is getting redundant.
    Give me one case where those carcinogens have been deadly and I'll concede. Until then, it's not deadly.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Give me one case where those carcinogens have been deadly and I'll concede. Until then, it's not deadly.
    Tobacco kills all the time due to the same carcinogens that are in marijuana. I've given plenty of links that show that the two have the same carcinogens.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Tobacco kills all the time due to the same carcinogens that are in marijuana. I've given plenty of links that show that the two have the same carcinogens.
    And yet you haven't given one link showing Marihuana has ever killed anyone. They are not the same drugs. I will not respond again until you provide a link showing people dying from Marihuana.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And yet you haven't given one link showing Marihuana has ever killed anyone. They are not the same drugs. I will not respond again until you provide a link showing people dying from Marihuana.
    Wow. Why am I not surprised here? You continueally ignore the fact that your initial response to me was your contention that marijuana has no deadly carcinogens. I showed you that marijuana has THE SAME DEADLY CARCINOGENS as tobacco and yet you STILL refuse to acknowledge this SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN FACT of which I have provided links showing that they have the same.

    And to top it all off every time I show this to be true you try to shift and claim that I claimed that Marijuana kills. SHOW ME WHERE I HAVE SAID THIS? ALL that I have said was that Marijuana has the SAME DEADLY CARCINOGENS as Tobacco. I have provided links showing this to be true.

    Thank you for proving that marijuana apparently does kill brain cells.
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