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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    pot is full of carcinogens and many illegal growers spray things they shouldn't on it while growing it.
    Which may or may not have anything to do with that particular cancer and may or may not have even happened to any of his pot. I notice you mention nothing else, such as his job, his geographical environment, how long he sat in stalled/idling traffic, all those other things that might have had an effect. Instead you just focus on the one thing that many reports have proven is patently false. Pot does not cause lung cancer.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    he and most supporters think legalized pot is less harmful than alcohol, when it fact it is probably much worse. My uncle died at 47 from lung cancer and pot was all he smoked.
    I like how you say "in fact" and then state something that's uncertain.

    Whether pot is more or less harmful than alcohol largely depends on how one decides to measure and delineate that "harm".

    Is something that can kill you from over consumption AND can potentially lead to illnesses that can kill you over the long term more or less harmful than something that possibly can lead to illnesses that can kill you over the long term?

    What symptoms of impairment are more or less "harmful" on their own? When combined with motor vehicles? Etc.

    Does withdrawal symptoms corresponding with stopping significant use of a particular substance play into its harm?

    I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that pot is as, if not less, dangerous than Alcohol...actually, it's a rather easy argument to make depending on what metrics an individual uses. That doesn't mean it should be used without a care, or that it's better than NOT using it. Suggesting that one drug is "safer" than another drug (marijuana, nicotine, alcohol, what have you) doesn't change the notion that they're all still questionable substances with negative side effects.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    smoking pot did, he never touched a cigarette or cigar
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    so she said

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    smoking pot did, he never touched a cigarette or cigar
    No...smoking did. If he smoked tobacco, he would have gotten lung cancer as well.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    he and most supporters think legalized pot is less harmful than alcohol, when it fact it is probably much worse. My uncle died at 47 from lung cancer and pot was all he smoked.
    My father got lung cancer and he never smoked...anything.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    so she said
    No offense, but your example also falls under that catagory. Hell, even my brother in law's story falls under that line technically.

    Point being that cancer, like many things, isn't a "sure" thing and there are many many factors involved, not just one. Does one run the risk if they smoke anything? Yes. But it isn't a sure thing, nor should it be the business of the government to get involved in making something like this illegal. Just like New York has shown, when you get any government entity deciding "what is bad for you, hence illegal" you run the risk of draconian laws.

    As much as I would hate the government to do it, if they government made alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, etc illegal (while draconian) that would make the only sense in making pot illegal. Since none of those things I listed except pot are illegal, it doesn't make sense to make pot illegal.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    That sounds more like tuberculosis.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Which may or may not have anything to do with that particular cancer and may or may not have even happened to any of his pot. I notice you mention nothing else, such as his job, his geographical environment, how long he sat in stalled/idling traffic, all those other things that might have had an effect. Instead you just focus on the one thing that many reports have proven is patently false. Pot does not cause lung cancer.
    he worked as a bartender and some farm work

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    My father got lung cancer and he never smoked...anything.
    sorry for your loss

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No offense, but your example also falls under that catagory. Hell, even my brother in law's story falls under that line technically.

    Point being that cancer, like many things, isn't a "sure" thing and there are many many factors involved, not just one. Does one run the risk if they smoke anything? Yes. But it isn't a sure thing, nor should it be the business of the government to get involved in making something like this illegal. Just like New York has shown, when you get any government entity deciding "what is bad for you, hence illegal" you run the risk of draconian laws.

    As much as I would hate the government to do it, if they government made alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, etc illegal (while draconian) that would make the only sense in making pot illegal. Since none of those things I listed except pot are illegal, it doesn't make sense to make pot illegal.
    it does until testing procedures are put in place in the work place and on the highways to make sure the rest of us are safe.

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