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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Obama is as wrong as he can be, and his policy website MDs are simply right on.

    Lest we forget, the truth of the matter is presented in the OP here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/health...ght=pot+deadly.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No...I posted your own words that prove either YOU are lying or only capable of reading at a 4th grade level.

    The pool of Americans disproving of legalizing pot IS shrinking and those 2 states is evidence.

    So.....where's the lie?
    48 still say no. so you are lying

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    48 still say no. so you are lying
    My mistake, your reading level seems more like 2nd grade...just starting out.

    Others would recognize the verb tense in 'shrinking' and understand it.

    Or maybe it's the definition of lying that you need:

    ly·ing1 [lahy-ing] noun

    1. the telling of lies, or false statements; untruthfulness.



    There was no falsity or untruthfulness or lie.

    Now that your distraction to save face has failed, would you like to support your initial claim or not?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    My mistake, your reading level seems more like 2nd grade...just starting out.

    Others would recognize the verb tense in 'shrinking' and understand it.

    Or maybe it's the definition of lying that you need:

    ly·ing1 [lahy-ing] noun

    1. the telling of lies, or false statements; untruthfulness.



    There was no falsity or untruthfulness or lie.

    Now that your distraction to save face has failed, would you like to support your initial claim or not?
    personal attacks, you got nothing, we are done as we were days ago

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    personal attacks, you got nothing, we are done as we were days ago
    *You* called me a liar. I showed you why you were wrong and asked you to support your claim...which you continue to avoid.

    Would you like to now? I prefer to stay on topic instead of attempting to educate you.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Did you read the one from the sciencedaily.com? I know I messed up the link however according to it...
    Of course. Further research is necessary to establish the casualty for which your previous statement depends. Cannabis research is still in its infancy, due in part to the confirmation bias that plagues government funded research.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Of course. Further research is necessary to establish the casualty for which your previous statement depends. Cannabis research is still in its infancy, due in part to the confirmation bias that plagues government funded research.
    Interesting that you would say this when having previously used a .gov link for proof of "an example of quality research that has established causality."
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    We do not track deaths from illegal drugs by drug, so this argument is silly
    Actually, we do. CDC collects all death certificates and compiles a list of all causes of deaths. It's called the Wonder. The only flaw in the system is it counts for each drug in the system at time of death so many of the causes of deaths are counted twice. So for example if you had Cocaine and Heroin in your system and died of an overdose, you'd be counted as Cocaine death and a Heroin death.

    Latest statistics (2010): There were 38,329 overdose deaths, of that 22,134 (60%) were prescribed. In the same year there were 88,000 deaths related to Alcohol. The economic cost for Alcohol related issues is over $200 billion a year. For prescribed and illegal drug use in the US, it's a mere $55 billion.

    But hey don't let the facts get in the way.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    *You* called me a liar. I showed you why you were wrong and asked you to support your claim...which you continue to avoid.

    Would you like to now? I prefer to stay on topic instead of attempting to educate you.
    we are done, your personal attacks are like babysitting. no thank you

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Actually, we do. CDC collects all death certificates and compiles a list of all causes of deaths. It's called the Wonder. The only flaw in the system is it counts for each drug in the system at time of death so many of the causes of deaths are counted twice. So for example if you had Cocaine and Heroin in your system and died of an overdose, you'd be counted as Cocaine death and a Heroin death.

    Latest statistics (2010): There were 38,329 overdose deaths, of that 22,134 (60%) were prescribed. In the same year there were 88,000 deaths related to Alcohol. The economic cost for Alcohol related issues is over $200 billion a year. For prescribed and illegal drug use in the US, it's a mere $55 billion.

    But hey don't let the facts get in the way.
    but they do not track people that were high a killed someone else while driving or operating machinery.

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