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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, the effects of pot and alcohol are different.

    Why I have to tell YOU that is any ones guess.

    You folks seem to place your entire argument on those distinctions.

    I can drink 1 or two Scotch and waters ( Dewars White Label Please ) and still remain mentally sharp and with little to no long term effects on my motivation or my intellectual capabillities.

    Marijuana's effects are ultimately A-motivational. Stupifying and addicting.

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    A person can smoke some of a joint and still stay mentally sharp and not have long term effects to their intellectual capabilities so I don't know the point you're trying to make here other than your pushing propaganda to support you big government desires

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Keep in mind legalizing it and regulating it will take the drug dealer out of the picture. It won't take a criminal to get weed, and also less kids will get their hands on it when it is regulated and you get it with an ID at the store. Alcohol is generally harder for minors to get their hands on than weed is. Weed is not chemically addictive at all; you can die from alcohol withdrawals. You can not overdose on weed, but people die from alcohol poisoning all the time. There is really no way around the fact that alcohol is worse for you.
    My main issue with weed is that smoking it is nearly or perhaps more harmful than smoking tobacco, due to various chemicals (although not the THC (sp?)).
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    he and most supporters think legalized pot is less harmful than alcohol, when it fact it is probably much worse. My uncle died at 47 from lung cancer and pot was all he smoked.
    Aren't libertarians the one's that advocate for minimal government intrusion? Are they the ones the generally advocate that the nation's drug war is a lost cause? So much for the theory that libertarian is just a conservative that wants to get laid and smoke dope....

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth — White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, the effects of pot and alcohol are different.

    Why I have to tell YOU that is any ones guess.

    You folks seem to place your entire argument on those distinctions.

    I can drink 1 or two Scotch and waters ( Dewars White Label Please ) and still remain mentally sharp and with little to no long term effects on my motivation or my intellectual capabillities.

    Marijuana's effects are ultimately A-motivational. Stupifying and addicting.

    The REAL reason States are choosing NOT to go
    Really? Have you tried pot?

    I have and it didnt have that affect on me...'a motivational' or whatever that is. And hey...I didnt get addicted!
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    My main issue with weed is that smoking it is nearly or perhaps more harmful than smoking tobacco, due to various chemicals (although not the THC (sp?)).
    Do you have a source for that? I'm pretty sure this is not true.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Do you have a source for that? I'm pretty sure this is not true.
    I recall reading a bit about it somewhere.

    Still, it makes sense - they filtered cigarettes not because of the addictive part (nicotine) but because of the various toxins in the smoke, especially tar(?).

    Basically it's not the drug, but the ingestion method - smoking - that I have an issue with.
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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Why are we wasting the Peoples' Tax monies on public policies that don't provide for the general welfare or the common defense?

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    he and most supporters think legalized pot is less harmful than alcohol, when it fact it is probably much worse. My uncle died at 47 from lung cancer and pot was all he smoked.
    Sorry for your loss, but if alcohol was all your uncle drank, he would have died a lot sooner.

    I don't know which is more harmful...neither is good for you, IMO.

    The point should not be which is worse.

    The point should be does the government have the right to tell a sane adult what they can put into their own bodies?

    I say 'NO'.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I recall reading a bit about it somewhere.

    Still, it makes sense - they filtered cigarettes not because of the addictive part (nicotine) but because of the various toxins in the smoke, especially tar(?).

    Basically it's not the drug, but the ingestion method - smoking - that I have an issue with.
    Even if marijuana smoke was as bad for your lungs as cigarette smoke, and I don't believe it is, why does that mean it should be illegal? Should we make cigarettes illegal? Should we make alcohol illegal? Even if your answer to those questions is yes, making things that millions of people want to have access to illegal does nothing but empower the black market. Look to prohibition and the absolute failure of the drug war. Making these things illegal does not fix the problem; it makes the problem worse, because you're giving criminals a means of making money. The only reasonable thing to do is make it legal and regulate it.

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    Re: ISTOOK: The blunt truth White house drug czar contradicts Obama on marijuana

    Life-long users of cigarettes, alcohol, and pot are more than likely to become a drain on our medical resources, insured or not.
    Does the Federal government have a responsibility to protect insured non-users from insured/uninsured users with respect to insurance rates ?
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