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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    same challenge. name every GOP member who has a legitimate chance to win the white house in two years
    The problem most people and the media have is they focus on just a set number of names, the old tired, tried and blue names. But there are always those sitting on the side that no one has even thought of yet. Some you might want to keep an eye on are former Indiana Governor Daniels, current Indiana Governor Pence, Nevada Governor Sandoval and who knows what other names may emerge from either the Senate or the House. There still is 2 years to go before the Republican primaries begin in earnest. Who knows what events or happenings will take place between now and then. But as of 19 Jan 2014 here are the lastest polling results vs. Clinton.

    Clinton 46 Christie 38
    Clinton 49 Ryan 40
    Clinton 49 Paul 39
    Clinton 51 Rubio 38
    Clinton 50 Cruz 35
    Clinton 49 Bush 38
    Clinton 48 Huckabee 42
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Why would anyone be an admirer of one of the worst Presidents in American history? A "big government lover" was Reagan - during his years in office government jobs increased by more than 1.2 million. Contrast that growth with the reduction of 700,000+ from 2009 to 2012. National debt more than doubled.


    Since the early 90s, there has been a deliberate attempt to create the Reagan myth - it has been incredibly successful unfortunately.
    You obviously have no understanding what the man's ideology was and the Democrat Congress he had to deal with that thwarted much of what he wanted to achieve.

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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    If Cuccinelli was the only one calling for Christie to step down, you might have a point. Because Christie received big big bucks in his race from the RCA that was hardly challenged, the same organization, with Christie the head, refused to give Cucinelli the funds needed the last 6 weeks of his campaign that would have won the election. Instead Virginia is now in the hands of McAwful who will make sure whoever the Democrats choose as their candidate in 2016, Mc Awful will do everything in his power to be sure that state goes blue.
    I haven't seen many people calling for Christie to step down. Certainly not among those of respectability and prestige, the people who dislike him will continue to dislike him but I don't see how it pays to strike down one of the GOP's rising stars who even if he didn't run could bank away millions for the GOP. Consequently I think this is why so few people would like to deliberately throw him under the bus when none of the allegations against him personally have been substantiated. If something solid comes along I think you'll see people start murmuring about that, until then it doesn't make sense to feed the controversy. Except if you have a bone to pick with him.

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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    He had no choice but to compromise for most of the time of his presidency as he had a Democrat majority in Congress. Which by the way kept him from achieving what he truly wanted. next!
    The requirement to compromise was designed into our government by the founders. RWR got that. That's why he was great. You don't get it. That's why you are a failure vector.
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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You obviously have no understanding what the man's ideology was and the Democrat Congress he had to deal with that thwarted much of what he wanted to achieve.

    and you obviously believe the mythology. What is a "Democrat Congress"? I know of a Democratic Congress. and seriously, you believe Congress "thwarted much of what he wanted to achieve"?
    Pray tell - what exactly did they thwart?
    Last edited by Somerville; 01-22-14 at 09:38 PM.
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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The requirement to compromise was designed into our government by the founders. RWR got that. That's why he was great. You don't get it. That's why you are a failure vector.
    Compromise yes, but not to the point you no longer can be distinguished between the left which is what the Republican elites have been about for decades. And you are one of them. You love big government as much as the left, you just think you can do it better. When a Republican reaches that point they have lost their soul.

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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    and you obviously believe the mythology. What is a "Democrat Congress"? I know of a Democratic Congress. and seriously, you believe Congress "thwarted much of what he wanted to achieve"?
    Pray tell - what exactly did they thwart?
    For one thing he wanted to shut down the Department of Education and return the duties to the states.

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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I think it is nothing more than sour sniping from a man who was visibly snubbed by Christie.
    Cooch might rethink his refusal to appear with Cruz on stage at his fund-raiser,
    driving away Cruz voters to pass on the election or go to Sarver .
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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Compromise yes, but not to the point you no longer can be distinguished between the left which is what the Republican elites have been about for decades. And you are one of them. You love big government as much as the left, you just think you can do it better. When a Republican reaches that point they have lost their soul.
    In RWR's own words:

    "When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.


    "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.


    "I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'


    "If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."
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    Re: Cuccinelli says Christie should quit RGA

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The problem most people and the media have is they focus on just a set number of names, the old tired, tried and blue names. But there are always those sitting on the side that no one has even thought of yet. Some you might want to keep an eye on are former Indiana Governor Daniels, current Indiana Governor Pence, Nevada Governor Sandoval and who knows what other names may emerge from either the Senate or the House. There still is 2 years to go before the Republican primaries begin in earnest. Who knows what events or happenings will take place between now and then. But as of 19 Jan 2014 here are the lastest polling results vs. Clinton.

    Clinton 46 Christie 38
    Clinton 49 Ryan 40
    Clinton 49 Paul 39
    Clinton 51 Rubio 38
    Clinton 50 Cruz 35
    Clinton 49 Bush 38
    Clinton 48 Huckabee 42
    Is it assumed that there will be no challengers to Clinton--that she is a shoo-in, even though she has repeatedly stated that she is not interested? Why is that, Pero? If for health or some other reason she doesn't run, wouldn't that create a problem for the Dems to field some candidates, since everyone is currently concentrating on one person?

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