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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    No. It's not.
    But it is.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Where did you get this nonsense?
    Directly from you. Answer the question. It's an easy one.
    Last edited by Phil E Buster; 01-27-14 at 07:28 PM.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    But it is.
    You can't elaborate coherently can you?

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Some people really don't understand the word "discrimination"

    Why wouldn't refusal to hire a gay person simply because of that person's sexual orientation be discrimination?

    What if the employer thinks unmarried pregnant women should be shunned, not be allowed to work for him/her? Isn't that discrimination?

    White supremacists often use the Bible to justify their racism. This proposed law would allow a member of the Aryan Nation cult to refuse entry into his business, refusal to rent to those he considers inferior beings, etc. Like I posted at the beginning, there are some people who really don't understand the meaning of "discrimination"
    People are discriminated every day for these reasons. You can't stop it, no matter how hard you try. However, it is illegal to tell someone they cannot have a job/be served/etc... due to race, religion, sexual orientation, etc....
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    Directly from you. Answer the question. It's an easy one.


    Presumptuous, I'll give you that, dishonest, but presumptuous...

    Freedom is not for the business owner exclusively, that is completely asinine. Other citizens have the same freedom of association as business owners.

    I did answer the question, don't have to answer it again. It was easy so it confuses me that you're having such difficulties.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    You can't elaborate coherently can you?
    You mean like your posts that just say nuh uh?

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post


    Presumptuous, I'll give you that, dishonest, but presumptuous...

    Freedom is not for the business owner exclusively, that is completely asinine. Other citizens have the same freedom of association as business owners.

    I did answer the question, don't have to answer it again. It was easy so it confuses me that you're having such difficulties.
    So what happens when the business owner doesn't want to serve the person that wants to be served by that business? Whose "freedom" wins?

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    I am personally fine with people discriminating against whoever they want as long as they don't use the government to enforce it or legislate laws or policies that exclude certain groups of public services. The way I see it, arbitrarily discriminating against a group generally incurs a cost in the market and therefore it is a competitive disadvantage and those who do not discriminate will generally do better in the market. If I learned anything from Chick Fil A and Duck Dynasty, it is that there is a market backlash when people try to force nondiscrimination views. I understand that a lot of people would rather not associate with me, and that is fine, because I really don't see much reason to associate with those who do not wish to associate with me.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    Whose "freedom" wins?
    There is no "freedom" to use another person's property.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    So what happens when the business owner doesn't want to serve the person that wants to be served by that business? Whose "freedom" wins?
    You don't have freedom to interact with people who don't want to interact with you, that's silly talk. A business owner isn't preventing someone from making a purchase of whatever it is that they may want to purchase, he just doesn't have to be the one to sell it to them.

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