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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    Ok. I have a better understanding of where you're coming from. To further clarify for me, you are advocating or would be in favor of a return to a Jim Crow type of era and unequal treatment of women and minorities?
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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    Which part of that is incorrect?

    Which isn't? What would you like me to be for you, eh? You wanna call me a racist? Go ahead, call me one. I need a good laugh.

    A misogynist? If you said misanthrope you'd be closer to the truth...

    The part where you're wrong is that you're trying to infer onto me a historical period and all the emotional baggage that goes along with it.

    I gave my view plainly and with no apology. You further pressing the issue bringing up Jim Crow and all that BS is only trying to shame and admonish me for acts and actions of other people from another time which correlate in no way with what I offered as my stated opinion. You think you can somehow shame me, that you can "out me" as a racist or as a misogynist, so, go ahead and just do it. I could care less really and I would be more appreciative of a direct accusation than all this pussyfooting about...

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Which isn't? What would you like me to be for you, eh? You wanna call me a racist? Go ahead, call me one. I need a good laugh.

    A misogynist? If you said misanthrope you'd be closer to the truth...

    The part where you're wrong is that you're trying to infer onto me a historical period and all the emotional baggage that goes along with it.

    I gave my view plainly and with no apology. You further pressing the issue bringing up Jim Crow and all that BS is only trying to shame and admonish me for acts and actions of other people from another time which correlate in no way with what I offered as my stated opinion. You think you can somehow shame me, that you can "out me" as a racist or as a misogynist, so, go ahead and just do it. I could care less really and I would be more appreciative of a direct accusation than all this pussyfooting about...
    You can label yourself those things if you wish, I have not accused you of either of them. What you have described is indeed a return to the Pre-civil rights act, post civil was era. It's not my fault your views fit in so well in that era. I take it you would be quite opposed to slavery, and rightfully so, because it's very nature is anti freedom for the slaves. But your views on only serving and working with and hiring only those that meet whatever standards you have, do indeed harken back to the post slavery time period.

    My question still stands unanswered.... What about those who would want to shop in your store that you personally don't want to serve? What about their freedom to choose to buy what you are selling?
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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    What about those who would want to shop in your store that you personally don't want to serve? What about their freedom to choose to buy what you are selling?
    There is no "freedom" to have a store serve you.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    There is no "freedom" to have a store serve you.
    So people can't enjoy the full and equal enjoyment of his store?

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    So people can't enjoy the full and equal enjoyment of his store?
    Sure they can, if the owner wants that. It is just like your home.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    You can label yourself those things if you wish, I have not accused you of either of them. What you have described is indeed a return to the Pre-civil rights act, post civil was era. It's not my fault your views fit in so well in that era. I take it you would be quite opposed to slavery, and rightfully so, because it's very nature is anti freedom for the slaves. But your views on only serving and working with and hiring only those that meet whatever standards you have, do indeed harken back to the post slavery time period.

    My question still stands unanswered.... What about those who would want to shop in your store that you personally don't want to serve? What about their freedom to choose to buy what you are selling?
    Can't just be honest, eh?

    The right to refuse service ring a bell?

    I'm baffled and perhaps you can explain this, but why are you asking for clarifications on something that has already been answered concisely?

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Can't just be honest, eh?

    The right to refuse service ring a bell?

    I'm baffled and perhaps you can explain this, but why are you asking for clarifications on something that has already been answered concisely?
    Ok. So freedom is only for the business owner to choose not other citizens.

    Do you disagree with the civil rights act in respect to its full and equal enjoyment language?

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

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    Sure they can, if the owner wants that. It is just like your home.
    No. It's not.

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    Re: Controversial bill to expand religious protections advances

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    Ok. So freedom is only for the business owner to choose not other citizens.

    Do you disagree with the civil rights act in respect to its full and equal enjoyment language?
    Where did you get this nonsense?

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